Lo que el fish te quita, el fish te lo da. - FOROS POQUER RED

cokebuster · 25-10-2007, 16:06:25

Esta paso una mano despues.

Texas Hold'em $0.50-$1 (real money), hand #P4-52497586-259
Table Greenwich, 25 Oct 2007 12:51 PM ET

Seat 1: Tjehov ($62.40 in chips)
Seat 2: RealCenutrio [ KS,AH ] ($23.40 in chips)
Seat 3: Fishstar ($7.20 in chips)
Seat 4: Mogool ($25.65 in chips)
Seat 5: Honda D ($41.75 in chips)
Seat 6: jakburza ($19.15 in chips)
Seat 7: anprappas1 ($246.15 in chips)
Seat 8: u are losers ($33.85 in chips)
Seat 9: PLHB ($81.20 in chips)
Seat 10: artistepop ($6.65 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
artistepop posts blind ($0.25), Tjehov posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
RealCenutrio bets $1, Fishstar calls $1, Mogool folds, Honda D folds, jakburza folds, anprappas1 calls $1, u are losers folds, PLHB bets $1.50, artistepop folds, Tjehov folds, RealCenutrio bets $1, Fishstar calls $1, anprappas1 calls $1, PLHB calls $0.50.

FLOP [board cards AD,4D,6S ]
RealCenutrio bets $0.50, Fishstar calls $0.50, anprappas1 calls $0.50, PLHB bets $1, RealCenutrio bets $1, Fishstar calls $1, anprappas1 folds, PLHB calls $0.50.

TURN [board cards AD,4D,6S,9H ]
RealCenutrio bets $1, Fishstar calls $1, PLHB bets $2, RealCenutrio calls $1, Fishstar calls $1.

RIVER [board cards AD,4D,6S,9H,KC ]
RealCenutrio checks, Fishstar checks, PLHB bets $1, RealCenutrio calls $1, Fishstar calls $1.

SHOWDOWN
PLHB shows [ 10S,AS ]
RealCenutrio shows [ KS,AH ]
Fishstar mucks cards
RealCenutrio wins $21.65.

Raist0000 · 26-10-2007, 11:30:31

Me parece bien jugada! El river no lo tengo del todo claro, no se q sera lo mejor, pero el resto me gusta.

flavicolo · 06-11-2007, 22:55:50

Que les parece estas 2 manos. El villano les roba a toda la mesa y me la regala a mi

PokerStars Game #13079650317: Hold'em Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/11/06 - 15:40:06 (ET)
Table 'Niobe' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: klutyfingers ($18.65 in chips)
Seat 2: mojoryder ($8.70 in chips)
Seat 5: SkiObrien ($15.50 in chips)
Seat 6: tituschalas ($37.40 in chips)
Seat 7: valuenic ($21.90 in chips)
Seat 8: DonkKon ($42.70 in chips)
Seat 9: mlpp81 ($12.25 in chips)
Seat 10: bagch ($10.15 in chips)
DonkKon: posts small blind $0.25
mlpp81: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tituschalas [Js Ad]
bagch: folds
klutyfingers: folds
mojoryder: folds
SkiObrien: folds
tituschalas: raises $0.50 to $1
valuenic: folds
frode30 joins the table at seat #4
DonkKon: calls $0.75
mlpp81: raises $0.50 to $1.50
tituschalas: calls $0.50
DonkKon: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [Th Kc 2s]
DonkKon: bets $0.50
mlpp81: raises $0.50 to $1
tituschalas: calls $1
DonkKon: raises $0.50 to $1.50
mlpp81: folds
tituschalas: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [Th Kc 2s] [8d]
DonkKon: bets $1
tituschalas: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [Th Kc 2s 8d] [Qd]
DonkKon: bets $1
tituschalas: raises $1 to $2
DonkKon: raises $1 to $3
tituschalas: raises $1 to $4
Betting is capped
DonkKon: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tituschalas: shows [Js Ad] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
DonkKon: mucks hand
tituschalas collected $18 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $18.50 | Rake $0.50
Board [Th Kc 2s 8d Qd]
Seat 1: klutyfingers folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: mojoryder folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SkiObrien folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: tituschalas showed [Js Ad] and won ($18) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 7: valuenic (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DonkKon (small blind) mucked [2d 7s]
Seat 9: mlpp81 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 10: bagch folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #13079806511: Hold'em Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/11/06 - 15:48:16 (ET)
Table 'Niobe' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: klutyfingers ($44.15 in chips)
Seat 2: mojoryder ($12.70 in chips)
Seat 4: frode30 ($19.80 in chips)
Seat 5: SkiObrien ($11.75 in chips)
Seat 6: tituschalas ($44.15 in chips)
Seat 7: valuenic ($18.65 in chips)
Seat 8: DonkKon ($41.05 in chips)
Seat 9: mlpp81 ($9.50 in chips)
Seat 10: bagch ($2.40 in chips)
DonkKon: posts small blind $0.25
mlpp81: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tituschalas [Ac Kc]
bagch: folds
klutyfingers: folds
mojoryder: folds
frode30: folds
SkiObrien: folds
tituschalas: calls $0.50
valuenic: calls $0.50
DonkKon: raises $0.50 to $1
mlpp81: calls $0.50
tituschalas: raises $0.50 to $1.50
valuenic: calls $1
DonkKon: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
mlpp81: folds
tituschalas: calls $0.50
valuenic: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [Th 3d 9s]
DonkKon: bets $0.50
tituschalas: raises $0.50 to $1
valuenic: folds
DonkKon: raises $0.50 to $1.50
tituschalas: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
DonkKon: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [Th 3d 9s] [Ks]
DonkKon: checks
tituschalas: bets $1
DonkKon: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [Th 3d 9s Ks] [As]
DonkKon: bets $1
tituschalas said, "lol"
tituschalas said, "AA?"
tituschalas: raises $1 to $2
DonkKon: raises $1 to $3
tituschalas: raises $1 to $4
Betting is capped
DonkKon: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tituschalas: shows [Ac Kc] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
DonkKon: mucks hand
tituschalas collected $20.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21 | Rake $0.50
Board [Th 3d 9s Ks As]
Seat 1: klutyfingers folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: mojoryder folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: frode30 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SkiObrien folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: tituschalas showed [Ac Kc] and won ($20.50) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 7: valuenic (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: DonkKon (small blind) mucked [Qc 2d]
Seat 9: mlpp81 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 10: bagch folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Raist0000 · 07-11-2007, 11:43:27

La primera no me gusta mucho! Haces call en el flop con un gutshot (los otros outs son MUY dudosos) teniendo odds de sólo 6:1, y con el riesgo de que hagan 3bet o cap detras tuyo. Mejor fold flop. Aunque el donkkon ese sea un loco, el otro tio hizo 3bet desde la big blind y ahora raisea el flop, seguro q tiene una mano muy buena.

En la segunda no se porq no raiseas preflop. Postflop me parece muy bien contra un loco. Aunque capear el flop parece un poco excesivo, yo creo q mejor call a su 3bet, con la intencion de calldown si no mejoras.

flavicolo · 08-11-2007, 12:49:15

Cita:

Empezado por Raist0000

La primera no me gusta mucho! Haces call en el flop con un gutshot (los otros outs son MUY dudosos) teniendo odds de sólo 6:1, y con el riesgo de que hagan 3bet o cap detras tuyo. Mejor fold flop. Aunque el donkkon ese sea un loco, el otro tio hizo 3bet desde la big blind y ahora raisea el flop, seguro q tiene una mano muy buena.

En la segunda no se porq no raiseas preflop. Postflop me parece muy bien contra un loco. Aunque capear el flop parece un poco excesivo, yo creo q mejor call a su 3bet, con la intencion de calldown si no mejoras.

Gracias por tus comentarios. En verdad tienes toda la razon con la primer mano, pasa que uno tenia 80/80% en 100 manos y el otro 60/25% y estaban yendo con absolutamente cualquier cosa. (y bueno, a veces nos agarra un poco el gambler que llevamos adentro tambien

contra tipos como estos).

En la segunda no hago Raise preflop esperando el raise del donkon ese para meter el Reraise y atrapar mas gente en el bote ya que AKs juega bien tanto HU como en un pozo multi-way.

Saludos!

26-10-2007, 11:30:31	#2
Raist0000 Tiburón Fecha de Ingreso: Oct 2006 Mensajes: 940 Reputación: 514	Re: Lo que el fish te quita, el fish te lo da. Me parece bien jugada! El river no lo tengo del todo claro, no se q sera lo mejor, pero el resto me gusta.

06-11-2007, 22:55:50	#3
flavicolo Tiburón Fecha de Ingreso: May 2007 Mensajes: 1.865 Reputación: 347	Re: Lo que el fish te quita, el fish te lo da. Que les parece estas 2 manos. El villano les roba a toda la mesa y me la regala a mi PokerStars Game #13079650317: Hold'em Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/11/06 - 15:40:06 (ET) Table 'Niobe' 10-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: klutyfingers ($18.65 in chips) Seat 2: mojoryder ($8.70 in chips) Seat 5: SkiObrien ($15.50 in chips) Seat 6: tituschalas ($37.40 in chips) Seat 7: valuenic ($21.90 in chips) Seat 8: DonkKon ($42.70 in chips) Seat 9: mlpp81 ($12.25 in chips) Seat 10: bagch ($10.15 in chips) DonkKon: posts small blind $0.25 mlpp81: posts big blind $0.50 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to tituschalas [Js Ad] bagch: folds klutyfingers: folds mojoryder: folds SkiObrien: folds tituschalas: raises $0.50 to $1 valuenic: folds frode30 joins the table at seat #4 DonkKon: calls $0.75 mlpp81: raises $0.50 to $1.50 tituschalas: calls $0.50 DonkKon: calls $0.50 * FLOP * [Th Kc 2s] DonkKon: bets $0.50 mlpp81: raises $0.50 to $1 tituschalas: calls $1 DonkKon: raises $0.50 to $1.50 mlpp81: folds tituschalas: calls $0.50 * TURN * [Th Kc 2s] [8d] DonkKon: bets $1 tituschalas: calls $1 * RIVER * [Th Kc 2s 8d] [Qd] DonkKon: bets $1 tituschalas: raises $1 to $2 DonkKon: raises $1 to $3 tituschalas: raises $1 to $4 Betting is capped DonkKon: calls $1 * SHOW DOWN * tituschalas: shows [Js Ad] (a straight, Ten to Ace) DonkKon: mucks hand tituschalas collected $18 from pot * SUMMARY * Total pot $18.50 \| Rake $0.50 Board [Th Kc 2s 8d Qd] Seat 1: klutyfingers folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: mojoryder folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: SkiObrien folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: tituschalas showed [Js Ad] and won ($18) with a straight, Ten to Ace Seat 7: valuenic (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: DonkKon (small blind) mucked [2d 7s] Seat 9: mlpp81 (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 10: bagch folded before Flop (didn't bet) PokerStars Game #13079806511: Hold'em Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/11/06 - 15:48:16 (ET) Table 'Niobe' 10-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: klutyfingers ($44.15 in chips) Seat 2: mojoryder ($12.70 in chips) Seat 4: frode30 ($19.80 in chips) Seat 5: SkiObrien ($11.75 in chips) Seat 6: tituschalas ($44.15 in chips) Seat 7: valuenic ($18.65 in chips) Seat 8: DonkKon ($41.05 in chips) Seat 9: mlpp81 ($9.50 in chips) Seat 10: bagch ($2.40 in chips) DonkKon: posts small blind $0.25 mlpp81: posts big blind $0.50 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to tituschalas [Ac Kc] bagch: folds klutyfingers: folds mojoryder: folds frode30: folds SkiObrien: folds tituschalas: calls $0.50 valuenic: calls $0.50 DonkKon: raises $0.50 to $1 mlpp81: calls $0.50 tituschalas: raises $0.50 to $1.50 valuenic: calls $1 DonkKon: raises $0.50 to $2 Betting is capped mlpp81: folds tituschalas: calls $0.50 valuenic: calls $0.50 * FLOP * [Th 3d 9s] DonkKon: bets $0.50 tituschalas: raises $0.50 to $1 valuenic: folds DonkKon: raises $0.50 to $1.50 tituschalas: raises $0.50 to $2 Betting is capped DonkKon: calls $0.50 * TURN * [Th 3d 9s] [Ks] DonkKon: checks tituschalas: bets $1 DonkKon: calls $1 * RIVER * [Th 3d 9s Ks] [As] DonkKon: bets $1 tituschalas said, "lol" tituschalas said, "AA?" tituschalas: raises $1 to $2 DonkKon: raises $1 to $3 tituschalas: raises $1 to $4 Betting is capped DonkKon: calls $1 * SHOW DOWN * tituschalas: shows [Ac Kc] (two pair, Aces and Kings) DonkKon: mucks hand tituschalas collected $20.50 from pot * SUMMARY * Total pot $21 \| Rake $0.50 Board [Th 3d 9s Ks As] Seat 1: klutyfingers folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: mojoryder folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: frode30 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: SkiObrien folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: tituschalas showed [Ac Kc] and won ($20.50) with two pair, Aces and Kings Seat 7: valuenic (button) folded on the Flop Seat 8: DonkKon (small blind) mucked [Qc 2d] Seat 9: mlpp81 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 10: bagch folded before Flop (didn't bet) __________________ No olvidemos el Ozmita-gate Suckers never died, they just change ┏┫　　｜　｜　┣┓ 　┏┓　 ┗┫━━　┃　━━┣┛　　┣┫Copia y pega esto 　┃　━━━━━　┃　┏┳┫┣┳┓　si te hizo 　┗━━┳━┳━━　┃　　　　　┃　perder el ━━━━┃　┃　　　　┗━┳┳━┛tiempo

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25-10-2007, 16:06:25	#1
cokebuster Miembro distinguido Fecha de Ingreso: Oct 2006 Mensajes: 426 Reputación: 19	Lo que el fish te quita, el fish te lo da. Esta paso una mano despues. Texas Hold'em $0.50-$1 (real money), hand #P4-52497586-259 Table Greenwich, 25 Oct 2007 12:51 PM ET Seat 1: Tjehov ($62.40 in chips) Seat 2: RealCenutrio [ KS,AH ] ($23.40 in chips) Seat 3: Fishstar ($7.20 in chips) Seat 4: Mogool ($25.65 in chips) Seat 5: Honda D ($41.75 in chips) Seat 6: jakburza ($19.15 in chips) Seat 7: anprappas1 ($246.15 in chips) Seat 8: u are losers ($33.85 in chips) Seat 9: PLHB ($81.20 in chips) Seat 10: artistepop ($6.65 in chips) ANTES/BLINDS artistepop posts blind ($0.25), Tjehov posts blind ($0.50). PRE-FLOP RealCenutrio bets $1, Fishstar calls $1, Mogool folds, Honda D folds, jakburza folds, anprappas1 calls $1, u are losers folds, PLHB bets $1.50, artistepop folds, Tjehov folds, RealCenutrio bets $1, Fishstar calls $1, anprappas1 calls $1, PLHB calls $0.50. FLOP [board cards AD,4D,6S ] RealCenutrio bets $0.50, Fishstar calls $0.50, anprappas1 calls $0.50, PLHB bets $1, RealCenutrio bets $1, Fishstar calls $1, anprappas1 folds, PLHB calls $0.50. TURN [board cards AD,4D,6S,9H ] RealCenutrio bets $1, Fishstar calls $1, PLHB bets $2, RealCenutrio calls $1, Fishstar calls $1. RIVER [board cards AD,4D,6S,9H,KC ] RealCenutrio checks, Fishstar checks, PLHB bets $1, RealCenutrio calls $1, Fishstar calls $1. SHOWDOWN PLHB shows [ 10S,AS ] RealCenutrio shows [ KS,AH ] Fishstar mucks cards RealCenutrio wins $21.65. __________________ “The older the player, the higher the kicker.”

07-11-2007, 11:43:27	#4
Raist0000 Tiburón Fecha de Ingreso: Oct 2006 Mensajes: 940 Reputación: 514	Re: Lo que el fish te quita, el fish te lo da. La primera no me gusta mucho! Haces call en el flop con un gutshot (los otros outs son MUY dudosos) teniendo odds de sólo 6:1, y con el riesgo de que hagan 3bet o cap detras tuyo. Mejor fold flop. Aunque el donkkon ese sea un loco, el otro tio hizo 3bet desde la big blind y ahora raisea el flop, seguro q tiene una mano muy buena. En la segunda no se porq no raiseas preflop. Postflop me parece muy bien contra un loco. Aunque capear el flop parece un poco excesivo, yo creo q mejor call a su 3bet, con la intencion de calldown si no mejoras.

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