flavicolo

Bueno, posteo 3 manos que me pasaron en la misma mesa y mas alla de que tuve suerte queria saber la opinion de ustedes.... (encima uno me empezo a insultar que ni les cuento )

1) PokerStars GAME #13062524602: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/11/05 - 18:01:27 (ET)
Table 'Bali' 10-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: nexxus0320 ($16.50 in chips)
Seat 2: mlpp81 ($11.65 in chips)
Seat 3: kpcherries ($18.65 in chips)
Seat 4: marquis97 ($13.75 in chips)
Seat 5: CCRIVERS ($25.55 in chips)
Seat 6: byrdman318 ($31.60 in chips)
Seat 7: PokerfaceZ71 ($11 in chips)
Seat 8: Bbrum ($44.15 in chips)
Seat 9: WrigleyJulz ($26.75 in chips)
Seat 10: tituschalas ($27 in chips)
byrdman318: posts small blind $0.25
PokerfaceZ71: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tituschalas [Qc Qh]
Bbrum: folds
WrigleyJulz: folds
tituschalas: raises $0.50 to $1
nexxus0320: folds
mlpp81: folds
kpcherries: calls $1
marquis97: folds
CCRIVERS: folds
byrdman318: raises $0.50 to $1.50
PokerfaceZ71: folds
tituschalas: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
kpcherries: folds
byrdman318: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [Ts 9h Kh]
byrdman318: checks
tituschalas: bets $0.50
byrdman318: raises $0.50 to $1
tituschalas: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [Ts 9h Kh] [Jd]
byrdman318: bets $1
tituschalas: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [Ts 9h Kh Jd] [3c]
byrdman318: bets $1
tituschalas: raises $1 to $2
byrdman318: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tituschalas: shows [Qc Qh] (a straight, Nine to King)
byrdman318: shows [Tc Td] (three of a kind, Tens)
tituschalas collected $13 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.50 | Rake $0.50
Board [Ts 9h Kh Jd 3c]
Seat 1: nexxus0320 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: mlpp81 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kpcherries folded before Flop
Seat 4: marquis97 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: CCRIVERS (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: byrdman318 (small blind) showed [Tc Td] and lost with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 7: PokerfaceZ71 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Bbrum folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: WrigleyJulz folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Ahi nomas la mano siguiente:

2) PokerStars GAME #13062648242: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/11/05 - 18:07:51 (ET)
Table 'Bali' 10-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: nexxus0320 ($25.75 in chips)
Seat 2: mlpp81 ($4.65 in chips)
Seat 3: kpcherries ($14.65 in chips)
Seat 4: marquis97 ($21.75 in chips)
Seat 5: CCRIVERS ($22.05 in chips)
Seat 6: byrdman318 ($25.60 in chips)
Seat 7: PokerfaceZ71 ($12.10 in chips)
Seat 8: Bbrum ($47.80 in chips)
Seat 9: evets123 ($20 in chips)
Seat 10: tituschalas ($33.25 in chips)
mlpp81: posts small blind $0.25
kpcherries: posts big blind $0.50
evets123: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tituschalas [Th Td]
marquis97: folds
CCRIVERS: folds
byrdman318: raises $0.50 to $1
PokerfaceZ71: folds
Bbrum: folds
evets123: calls $0.50
tituschalas: raises $0.50 to $1.50
nexxus0320: folds
mlpp81: folds
kpcherries: calls $1
byrdman318: calls $0.50
evets123: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [4h 8h 6s]
kpcherries: checks
byrdman318: checks
evets123: checks
tituschalas: bets $0.50
kpcherries: calls $0.50
byrdman318: calls $0.50
evets123: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [4h 8h 6s] [5h]
kpcherries: checks
byrdman318: checks
evets123: checks
tituschalas: bets $1
kpcherries: calls $1
byrdman318: calls $1
evets123: folds
*** RIVER *** [4h 8h 6s 5h] [Jd]
kpcherries: checks
byrdman318: checks
tituschalas: bets $1
kpcherries: calls $1
byrdman318: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tituschalas: shows [Th Td] (a pair of Tens)
kpcherries: shows [2d 2h] (a pair of Deuces)
byrdman318: shows [8d 8s] (three of a kind, Eights)
byrdman318 collected $13.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $14.25 | Rake $0.50
Board [4h 8h 6s 5h Jd]
Seat 1: nexxus0320 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: mlpp81 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: kpcherries (big blind) showed [2d 2h] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 4: marquis97 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: CCRIVERS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: byrdman318 showed [8d 8s] and won ($13.75) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 7: PokerfaceZ71 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Bbrum folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: evets123 folded on the Turn
Seat 10: tituschalas showed [Th Td] and lost with a pair of Tens


Y por ultimo esta otra....

3) PokerStars GAME #13063094276: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/11/05 - 18:31:20 (ET)
Table 'Bali' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Bigfoot132 ($7.80 in chips)
Seat 2: mlpp81 ($11.80 in chips)
Seat 3: Jacksonnn333 ($18.75 in chips)
Seat 4: marquis97 ($19.05 in chips)
Seat 5: CCRIVERS ($12.05 in chips)
Seat 6: byrdman318 ($33.25 in chips)
Seat 7: #1HOFF ($20.50 in chips)
Seat 8: Bbrum ($44.55 in chips)
Seat 9: evets123 ($30.25 in chips)
Seat 10: tituschalas ($34 in chips)
#1HOFF: posts small blind $0.25
Bbrum: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tituschalas [Jc Js]
evets123: folds
tituschalas: raises $0.50 to $1
Bigfoot132: calls $1
mlpp81: calls $1
Jacksonnn333: folds
marquis97: folds
CCRIVERS: folds
byrdman318: folds
#1HOFF: folds
Bbrum: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [5d 2c Ks]
evets123 leaves the table
Bbrum: bets $0.50
tituschalas: raises $0.50 to $1
Bigfoot132: folds
mlpp81: folds
Bbrum: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [5d 2c Ks] [Qd]
Bbrum: checks
tituschalas: checks
*** RIVER *** [5d 2c Ks Qd] [Jh]
Bbrum: bets $1
tituschalas: raises $1 to $2
Bbrum: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tituschalas: shows [Jc Js] (three of a kind, Jacks)
Bbrum: mucks hand
tituschalas collected $9.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.25 | Rake $0.45
Board [5d 2c Ks Qd Jh]
Seat 1: Bigfoot132 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: mlpp81 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Jacksonnn333 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: marquis97 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: CCRIVERS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: byrdman318 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: #1HOFF (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Bbrum (big blind) mucked [Qh Kh]
Seat 9: evets123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: tituschalas showed [Jc Js] and won ($9.80) with three of a kind, Jacks


A ver que opinan?

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flavicolo

Por cierto, manos de este nivel las tendria que postear en el subforo de limit ya???

Saludos!

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nepundo

Creo que hasta que no subas a 1/2 nada :-P (aunque reconozco que no recuerdo en qué quedamos al final)

Las manos las veo bien. Quizá subir en el turn en la de QQ, pero creo que en este caso esperar al river está mejor, no sé... y en la de JJ tendría que ver la agresividad por calles del rival para hacer el check-behind en turn o river.

Y nada, tú deja que te insulten. El otro día me iba a largar de una mesa porque sólo quedaban jugadores decentes cuando veo que uno de ellos se pone a despotricar por el chat. Tilt clarísimo. Me quedé y justo en la siguiente mano el tío se empeña en hacer cap preflop con Q6s o algo así y farolear toda la mano contra no sé qué cañón que había pillado yo. A las 3 manos ya se calmó porque se quedaba sin pasta y ya me piré :-D

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Raist0000

Las dos primeras las veo muy bien.

Pero en la tercera si decides raisear el flop, me parece mucho mejor hacer bet el turn con la idea de checkear el river. Si resulta que tiene una mano peor que la tuya, que pague para superarte! y si resulta q tiene un rey, normalmente vas a perder lo mismo de las dos formas. Y si resulta q tiene una mano muy fuerte y te hace checkraise y tienes que foldear tampoco pierdes demasiado porq tienes 2 outs nada mas.

flavicolo

Si, tienen razon al respecto, justamente estuve leyendo de comprar el ShowDown en el turn que viene muy bien explicado en el libro de King Yao.

Hoy por la noche les copio las condiciones que el establece que esta de lo mas interesante.

Saludos!


Por cierto nepundo, el de los 10-10 en la primer mano me empezo a decir moron, donkey, etc, etc porque hago call con gutshot draw. Me encantan los tipos que se creen que saben jugar y ni miran los Pot Odds. Pero bueno, nosotros no estamos en las mesas para educarlos, no?

Saludos!

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Sergeon

quedamos en 1/2 sí...
y las manos bien. En niveles bajos mejor free showdown que checkturn value. Un slaudo!

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