ZZidane

En primer lugar, hacéis call con este tipo de mano desde la BB?? Y desde Late???
Salís apostando el flop?? Hacéis checkraise?? Esto último no creo que tenga sentido habiendo un tio allin y pudiendo echar a gente con buena mano que nos pueda pagar si completamos.

PokerStars GAME #9623387988: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/04/26 - 20:28:45 (ET)
Table 'Scutum II' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: BostonAK_617 ($20 in chips)
Seat 2: Apostasie ($30 in chips)
Seat 3: zolie ($9.25 in chips)
Seat 4: papanatasmoe ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Kjellstroem ($89.10 in chips)
Seat 6: clay4play ($146.10 in chips)
Seat 7: Yoshio05 ($50 in chips)
Seat 8: dimitri72 ($10.25 in chips)
Seat 9: Landonious ($24.75 in chips)
papanatasmoe: posts small blind $0.25
Kjellstroem: posts big blind $0.50
BostonAK_617: posts big blind $0.50
Apostasie: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to papanatasmoe [Qs Ts]
clay4play: folds
Yoshio05: folds
dimitri72: folds
Landonious: raises $1.50 to $2
BostonAK_617: folds
Apostasie: calls $1.50
zolie: calls $2
papanatasmoe: calls $1.75
Kjellstroem: folds
*** FLOP *** [As 8s 7h]
papanatasmoe: checks
Landonious: bets $6
Apostasie: calls $6
zolie: raises $1.25 to $7.25 and is all-in
papanatasmoe: calls $7.25
Landonious: calls $1.25
Apostasie: calls $1.25
*** TURN *** [As 8s 7h] [4s]
papanatasmoe: checks
Landonious: checks
Apostasie: bets $0.50
papanatasmoe: raises $20.25 to $20.75
Landonious: folds
Apostasie: calls $20.25 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [As 8s 7h 4s] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
papanatasmoe: shows [Qs Ts] (a flush, Ace high)
Apostasie: mucks hand
papanatasmoe collected $40.35 from side pot
zolie: mucks hand
papanatasmoe collected $36.15 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $79.50 Main pot $36.15. Side pot $40.35. | Rake $3
Board [As 8s 7h 4s 3c]
Seat 1: BostonAK_617 folded before Flop
Seat 2: Apostasie mucked [8d 8c]
Seat 3: zolie (button) mucked [Qd Ac]
Seat 4: papanatasmoe (small blind) showed [Qs Ts] and won ($76.50) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: Kjellstroem (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: clay4play folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Yoshio05 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: dimitri72 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Landonious folded on the Turn

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Es inevitable acabar allin?? El villano es un 35,29/5,88/2,5 (VIP/PFR/AF)

PokerStars GAME #9623731489: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/04/26 - 20:51:13 (ET)
Table 'Amphitrite' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: A-10Warthog2 ($59.70 in chips)
Seat 3: Reddog133 ($48 in chips)
Seat 4: AlZeiMeR ($78.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Yoshio05 ($53.55 in chips)
Seat 7: MarkRosen23 ($56.30 in chips)
Seat 8: papanatasmoe ($59.05 in chips)
Seat 9: lbkslim ($14.70 in chips)
maydani will be allowed to play after the button
A-10Warthog2: posts small blind $0.25
Reddog133: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to papanatasmoe [Kh Kc]
AlZeiMeR: folds
Yoshio05: folds
MarkRosen23: raises $2 to $2.50
papanatasmoe: raises $5 to $7.50
lbkslim: folds
A-10Warthog2: folds
Reddog133: folds
MarkRosen23: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [Jh 2s 7d]
MarkRosen23: checks
papanatasmoe: bets $10
coatcheck has returned
MarkRosen23: calls $10
*** TURN *** [Jh 2s 7d] [7h]
MarkRosen23: checks
papanatasmoe: bets $28
MarkRosen23: raises $10.80 to $38.80 and is all-in
papanatasmoe: calls $10.80
*** RIVER *** [Jh 2s 7d 7h] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MarkRosen23: shows [Jd Jc] (a full house, Jacks full of Sevens)
papanatasmoe: mucks hand
MarkRosen23 collected $110.35 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $113.35 | Rake $3
Board [Jh 2s 7d 7h 5h]
Seat 2: A-10Warthog2 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Reddog133 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: AlZeiMeR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Yoshio05 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: MarkRosen23 showed [Jd Jc] and won ($110.35) with a full house, Jacks full of Sevens
Seat 8: papanatasmoe mucked [Kh Kc]
Seat 9: lbkslim (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


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En esta sencillamente estaba viendo fantasmas donde no los había. Supongo que bet de 3/4 y fold ante raise y check el river, no??
TheGoodThief era 17,22/5,13/3,11 y Haway un 85,71/14,29/0,5 que duró pocas manos más.

PokerStars GAME #9625143380: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/04/26 - 22:21:14 (ET)
Table 'Ottilia II' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: riskyy ($18.50 in chips)
Seat 2: McFiddish ($39.40 in chips)
Seat 3: TheGoodThief ($67.25 in chips)
Seat 4: ChristopherT ($91.15 in chips)
Seat 5: Thinktwowin ($33.35 in chips)
Seat 6: jahwe ($62.30 in chips)
Seat 7: papanatasmoe ($92.75 in chips)
Seat 8: haway1862 ($26.05 in chips)
Seat 9: sparky_67 ($28.25 in chips)
sparky_67: posts small blind $0.25
riskyy: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to papanatasmoe [Kd Ks]
McFiddish: folds
TheGoodThief: calls $0.50
ChristopherT: folds
Thinktwowin: folds
jahwe: folds
papanatasmoe: raises $2 to $2.50
haway1862: calls $2.50
sparky_67: folds
riskyy: folds
TheGoodThief: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [7h 6c 5c]
TheGoodThief: checks
papanatasmoe: bets $5
haway1862: calls $5
TheGoodThief: calls $5
*** TURN *** [7h 6c 5c] [Qs]
TheGoodThief: checks
papanatasmoe: checks
haway1862: checks
*** RIVER *** [7h 6c 5c Qs] [Tc]
TheGoodThief: bets $15.50
papanatasmoe: folds
haway1862: folds
TheGoodThief collected $22.15 from pot
TheGoodThief: shows [8s 8d] (a pair of Eights)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $23.25 | Rake $1.10
Board [7h 6c 5c Qs Tc]
Seat 1: riskyy (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: McFiddish folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: TheGoodThief collected ($22.15)
Seat 4: ChristopherT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Thinktwowin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: jahwe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: papanatasmoe folded on the River
Seat 8: haway1862 (button) folded on the River
Seat 9: sparky_67 (small blind) folded before Flop

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AJ es sin duda mi bestia negra. Supongo que Raise en el Turn y qué ante reraise?? Fold, supongo... QT, set... Demasiadas manos. No pinto nada haciendo ese call en el River, aunque ahi me guié por la agresividad del tipo en cuestión

El tipo era un 25,48/14,29/5,4

PokerStars GAME #9624616705: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/04/26 - 21:48:12 (ET)
Table 'Amphitrite' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: youredoneson ($45 in chips)
Seat 2: A-10Warthog2 ($70.85 in chips)
Seat 3: dingo1977 ($10.50 in chips)
Seat 4: AlZeiMeR ($103.75 in chips)
Seat 5: BKKiMP ($11.55 in chips)
Seat 6: TheSPC ($71.25 in chips)
Seat 7: MarkRosen23 ($92.20 in chips)
Seat 8: papanatasmoe ($59.90 in chips)
Seat 9: ac000000 ($47.50 in chips)
dingo1977: posts small blind $0.25
AlZeiMeR: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to papanatasmoe [Ah Js]
BKKiMP: folds
TheSPC: folds
MarkRosen23: folds
papanatasmoe: raises $1.50 to $2
ac000000 said, "no computer hesitated"
A-10Warthog2 said, "sir we are all not TOP PROS like you"
ac000000: folds
youredoneson: folds
A-10Warthog2: folds
dingo1977: folds
ac000000 said, "i called instantly"
AlZeiMeR: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [8s Jd 9h]
TheSPC said, "i told you what u had b4 o daw"
AlZeiMeR: checks
TheSPC said, "it was obvious"
papanatasmoe: bets $3
A-10Warthog2 said, "sir"
AlZeiMeR: calls $3
*** TURN *** [8s Jd 9h] [Ad]
AlZeiMeR: checks
A-10Warthog2 said, "you obv dont knwo the rules here"
papanatasmoe: bets $7
AlZeiMeR: raises $9 to $16
TheSPC said, "id called with a set though"
papanatasmoe: calls $9
*** RIVER *** [8s Jd 9h Ad] [4d]
TheSPC said, "and lost"
A-10Warthog2 said, "sir"
AlZeiMeR: bets $42.50
papanatasmoe: calls $38.90 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
AlZeiMeR: shows [Jc Jh] (three of a kind, Jacks)
papanatasmoe: mucks hand
TheSPC said, "hard to lay it down in that spot"
AlZeiMeR collected $117.05 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $120.05 | Rake $3
Board [8s Jd 9h Ad 4d]
Seat 1: youredoneson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: A-10Warthog2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: dingo1977 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: AlZeiMeR (big blind) showed [Jc Jh] and won ($117.05) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 5: BKKiMP folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: TheSPC folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: MarkRosen23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: papanatasmoe mucked [Ah Js]
Seat 9: ac000000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Esta supongo que era inevitable, aunque quizá debía habermelo olido porque el tipo era un 11,11/0/0 en 376 manos.........

PokerStars GAME #9624407802: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/04/26 - 21:34:58 (ET)
Table 'Amphitrite' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: youredoneson ($46.50 in chips)
Seat 2: A-10Warthog2 ($70.30 in chips)
Seat 3: dingo1977 ($14.25 in chips)
Seat 4: AlZeiMeR ($104.50 in chips)
Seat 5: BKKiMP ($9.25 in chips)
Seat 6: TheSPC ($73.30 in chips)
Seat 7: MarkRosen23 ($92.90 in chips)
Seat 8: papanatasmoe ($76.85 in chips)
Seat 9: vbace1234 ($17.50 in chips)
MarkRosen23: posts small blind $0.25
papanatasmoe: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to papanatasmoe [5h As]
vbace1234: calls $0.50
youredoneson: folds
TheSPC said, "that 4 wouldve been high action"
TheSPC said, "LOL"
A-10Warthog2 said, "let us know when your husband will be playing sir"
A-10Warthog2: calls $0.50
dingo1977: calls $0.50
AlZeiMeR: folds
BKKiMP: folds
TheSPC: calls $0.50
MarkRosen23: calls $0.25
papanatasmoe: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ah Th 5d]
TheSPC said, "you'd known when a 4 hit there"
MarkRosen23: checks
papanatasmoe: bets $2.50
A-10Warthog2 said, "i didnt even see my hand"
vbace1234: calls $2.50
A-10Warthog2 said, "what would a 4 do?"
A-10Warthog2: folds
dingo1977: folds
TheSPC: folds
MarkRosen23: folds
*** TURN *** [Ah Th 5d] [4c]
TheSPC said, "u a str8 and me a full boat"
papanatasmoe: bets $7
A-10Warthog2 said, "meh"
A-10Warthog2 said, "one buy in"
A-10Warthog2 said, "dont matter kid"
vbace1234: calls $7
*** RIVER *** [Ah Th 5d 4c] [6s]
papanatasmoe: bets $8
vbace1234: calls $7.50 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
papanatasmoe: shows [5h As] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
vbace1234: shows [Ad Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
vbace1234 collected $35.25 from pot
TheSPC said, "i dotn need the baor to make a move"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $37 | Rake $1.75
Board [Ah Th 5d 4c 6s]
Seat 1: youredoneson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: A-10Warthog2 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: dingo1977 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: AlZeiMeR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: BKKiMP folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: TheSPC (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: MarkRosen23 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: papanatasmoe (big blind) showed [5h As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 9: vbace1234 showed [Ad Ac] and won ($35.25) with three of a kind, Aces

Empecinado

La verdad es que las unicas mal jugadas me parecen las de reyes.

En la primera no usas la posicion para checkear el turn y mantener bajo control el tamaño del bote y cabas pot comited como se dice contra un set.

Y en la segunda con una mesa llena de draws das una carta gratis en el turn y induciendo el farol del river (el villano seguro que te puso en AK o similar al checkear el turn) que despues no ves.

El resto son manos normales y desafortunadas.

Saludos
--empe