Planteamiento de torneos - FOROS POQUER RED

amatos · 11-10-2007, 10:15:28

Ayer no pinché algo gordo de milagro. En el 50Rb y en el 100Bb decidí hacer movimientos que normalmente no hago por temas de riesgo, pero decidí jugar según lo últimamente expuesto por Raul, y os comento como me fué. Como anticipo pongo los finales. Pero emplearé este post para pegar manos que me parezcan interesantes, y espero que alguno pueda comentar que les parece. Miraré de pegar varias manos, Yo no las explicar´ñe, pero espero que alguien me pueda pedir el pq de mis movimientos.
A ver si entre todos damos un salto de calidad.

Y aquí va como me eliminan de los dos:

1- En el 100Rb quedamos 6 estando en una situación inmejorable para pegar una ostia de 21.000 pavos. A la mierda en una mano que casi me hace romper el ratón

PokerStars Game #12553545081: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (3000/6000) - 2007/10/10 - 18:43:25 (ET)
Table '63175218 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: FishList_net (287624 in chips)
Seat 4: slammedfire (68413 in chips)
Seat 5: amatos (11231 in chips)
Seat 6: aakkari (70624 in chips)
Seat 7: sirraffay (155772 in chips)
Seat 8: Dracospinner (620336 in chips)
FishList_net: posts the ante 600
slammedfire: posts the ante 600
amatos: posts the ante 600
aakkari: posts the ante 600
sirraffay: posts the ante 600
Dracospinner: posts the ante 600
slammedfire: posts small blind 3000
amatos: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Tc Js]
aakkari: folds
sirraffay: folds
TOMMY ONE_K [observer] said, "go amatos"
Dracospinner: folds
FishList_net: folds
slammedfire: raises 6000 to 12000
amatos: calls 4631 and is all-in
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "fold everyone please"
*** FLOP *** [2c 8d Kc]
FishList_net said, "gl allin"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t"
*** TURN *** [2c 8d Kc] [7c]
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "tt"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t"
*** RIVER *** [2c 8d Kc 7c] [8s]
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "v"
aakkari said, "gg"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
slammedfire: shows [Qd Ad] (a pair of Eights)
amatos: shows [Tc Js] (a pair of Eights - lower kicker)
DougBargBR [observer] said, "gg"
slammedfire collected 24862 from pot
slammedfire said, "gg amatos"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 24862 | Rake 0
Board [2c 8d Kc 7c 8s]
Seat 2: FishList_net (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: slammedfire (small blind) showed [Qd Ad] and won (24862) with a pair of Eights
Seat 5: amatos (big blind) showed [Tc Js] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 6: aakkari folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: sirraffay folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Dracospinner folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Este es el 50Rb. Quedamos 29 y cobran 27. Creo que simplemente fué un mal timing. Una putada pues me ponía gordo:

PokerStars Game #12553237681: Tournament #63175231, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (600/1200) - 2007/10/10 - 18:25:52 (ET)
Table '63175231 12' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ozenc (36646 in chips)
Seat 2: Johnster (140943 in chips)
Seat 4: sickotexan (28423 in chips)
Seat 5: CarteNoire (23419 in chips)
Seat 6: amatos (41443 in chips)
Seat 7: Homeless (26102 in chips)
Seat 8: the abstract (31735 in chips)
Seat 9: oa 75 (104582 in chips)
ozenc: posts the ante 125
Johnster: posts the ante 125
sickotexan: posts the ante 125
CarteNoire: posts the ante 125
amatos: posts the ante 125
Homeless: posts the ante 125
the abstract: posts the ante 125
oa 75: posts the ante 125
ozenc: posts small blind 600
Johnster: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Qs Qh]
sickotexan: folds
CarteNoire: folds
amatos: raises 2400 to 3600
Homeless: folds
the abstract: folds
oa 75: folds
ozenc: raises 6000 to 9600
Johnster: folds
amatos: raises 14400 to 24000
ozenc: raises 12521 to 36521 and is all-in
amatos: calls 12521
*** FLOP *** [3h Ah 7d]
*** TURN *** [3h Ah 7d] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [3h Ah 7d Jc] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ozenc: shows [Ad As] (three of a kind, Aces)
amatos: shows [Qs Qh] (a pair of Queens)
ozenc collected 75242 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 75242 | Rake 0
Board [3h Ah 7d Jc Ks]
Seat 1: ozenc (small blind) showed [Ad As] and won (75242) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 2: Johnster (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: sickotexan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: CarteNoire folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: amatos showed [Qs Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 7: Homeless folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: the abstract folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: oa 75 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Pero no me preocupa como salgo de los torneos, sinó como llego hasta allí. Ahora me pongo a bucear en el hand history. Espero que comenteiis las manos que colgaré, pues las dos anteriores tienen poco comentario.

A ver si me da tiempo esta mañana. Seguramente será un tostón, pero me gustaría oir opiniones.

Un saludo

amatos · 11-10-2007, 11:06:25

Para los perezosos, pongo las que considero importantes:

Y llega el segundo movimiento bastante arriesgado

PokerStars Game #12551452848: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2007/10/10 - 16:46:20 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (7780 in chips)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (18096 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (22467 in chips)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (39477 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (22374 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (35139 in chips)
Seat 8: GRinDer444 (22615 in chips)
Seat 9: chengsuzu (13313 in chips)
electron 1 1: posts the ante 100
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 100
amatos: posts the ante 100
IchhabRücken: posts the ante 100
loorent: posts the ante 100
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 100
GRinDer444: posts the ante 100
chengsuzu: posts the ante 100
electron 1 1: posts small blind 500
LuckySharkPT: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [As Kh]
amatos: raises 2000 to 3000
IchhabRücken: folds
loorent: folds
Hudzzzzz: calls 3000
GRinDer444: folds
chengsuzu: folds
electron 1 1: folds
LuckySharkPT: folds
*** FLOP *** [3d 8d Ts]
amatos: checks
Hudzzzzz: bets 6000
KojGysto is connected
amatos: raises 13367 to 19367 and is all-in
Hudzzzzz: folds
amatos collected 20300 from pot
amatos: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 20300 | Rake 0
Board [3d 8d Ts]
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: amatos collected (20300)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: loorent folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz folded on the Flop
Seat 8: GRinDer444 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: chengsuzu (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Primera locura del día. Este tipo había hecho dos resteel, y le gustaba trobar. Decido que le voy a hacer push venga lo que venga:

PokerStars Game #12550502758: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/10/10 - 15:55:13 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: DPRODIGY (22958 in chips)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (11000 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (13609 in chips)
Seat 4: M.Yada (5770 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (45206 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (27155 in chips)
Seat 7: robert07 (17540 in chips)
Seat 8: GRinDer444 (10585 in chips)
Seat 9: typhoon321 (10195 in chips)
DPRODIGY: posts the ante 25
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 25
amatos: posts the ante 25
M.Yada: posts the ante 25
loorent: posts the ante 25
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 25
robert07: posts the ante 25
GRinDer444: posts the ante 25
typhoon321: posts the ante 25
robert07: posts small blind 200
GRinDer444: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Tc Ac]
typhoon321: calls 400
DPRODIGY: raises 1200 to 1600
LuckySharkPT: folds
amatos: calls 1600
M.Yada: folds
loorent: folds
Hudzzzzz: folds
robert07: folds
GRinDer444: folds
typhoon321: calls 1200
*** FLOP *** [2s Jh 8s]
typhoon321: checks
DPRODIGY: bets 3200
amatos: raises 8784 to 11984 and is all-in
typhoon321: folds
DPRODIGY: folds
amatos collected 12025 from pot
amatos: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 12025 | Rake 0
Board [2s Jh 8s]
Seat 1: DPRODIGY folded on the Flop
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: amatos collected (12025)
Seat 4: M.Yada folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: loorent folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: robert07 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: GRinDer444 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: typhoon321 folded on the Flop

Mano en la que necesito fichas. UN poco de riesgo

PokerStars Game #12552511622: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1000/2000) - 2007/10/10 - 17:45:09 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (9414 in chips)
Seat 2: jimbomber (83057 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (31763 in chips)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (65966 in chips)
Seat 5: 7Holms (33749 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (92604 in chips)
Seat 7: Pe-T (35670 in chips)
electron 1 1: posts the ante 200
jimbomber: posts the ante 200
amatos: posts the ante 200
IchhabRücken: posts the ante 200
7Holms: posts the ante 200
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 200
Pe-T: posts the ante 200
IchhabRücken: posts small blind 1000
7Holms: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Js Kd]
Hudzzzzz: folds
Pe-T: folds
electron 1 1: folds
jimbomber: raises 4000 to 6000
amatos: raises 18000 to 24000
IchhabRücken: folds
7Holms: folds
jimbomber: folds
amatos collected 16400 from pot
amatos: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 16400 | Rake 0
Seat 1: electron 1 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jimbomber folded before Flop
Seat 3: amatos (button) collected (16400)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: 7Holms (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Pe-T folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Aqui la idea es hacer call, para hacer Check Raise all in salga lo que salga. Al salir premio lo que intento es sacarle todo...

PokerStars Game #12552582671: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1000/2000) - 2007/10/10 - 17:49:06 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (18428 in chips)
Seat 2: jimbomber (63643 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (54163 in chips)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (63966 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (118353 in chips)
Seat 7: Pe-T (33670 in chips)
electron 1 1: posts the ante 200
jimbomber: posts the ante 200
amatos: posts the ante 200
IchhabRücken: posts the ante 200
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 200
Pe-T: posts the ante 200
amatos: posts small blind 1000
IchhabRücken: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [5d 5c]
Hudzzzzz: folds
Pe-T: folds
electron 1 1: folds
jimbomber: raises 4000 to 6000
amatos: calls 5000
IchhabRücken: folds
*** FLOP *** [2h 5s 2c]
amatos: bets 5000
jimbomber: raises 7000 to 12000
amatos: calls 7000
*** TURN *** [2h 5s 2c] [Ac]
amatos: bets 10000
jimbomber: raises 28000 to 38000
amatos: calls 25963 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [2h 5s 2c Ac] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
amatos: shows [5d 5c] (a full house, Fives full of Deuces)
jimbomber: shows [4d Ah] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
amatos collected 111126 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 111126 | Rake 0
Board [2h 5s 2c Ac Qh]
Seat 1: electron 1 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jimbomber (button) showed [4d Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Deuces
Seat 3: amatos (small blind) showed [5d 5c] and won (111126) with a full house, Fives full of Deuces
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Pe-T folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Como vereis no es que me la esté jugando cada dos minutos, pero hay manos en las que creo que es necesario arriesgar, no por nuestra mano sinó por lecturas, para poder llegar lejos.

Hay muchas en las que me llevo pequeños pots, o reraise sin importancia, pero creo que estas son las mas interesantes...

Menudo tostoooon

amatos · 11-10-2007, 11:08:01

Y elñ rsto de manos, para el que no tiene nada que hacer. Un saludo

Empezaré por manos del 100RB. Intentaré poner manos que me parezcan interesantes. Como vereis hay algunas en las que voy de puta madre, pero arriesgo una barbaridad. Son manos de después del add on,

1 Mano: Guerra de ciegas. Poco a comentar

PokerStars Game #12550009034: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/10/10 - 15:29:28 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: DPRODIGY (18980 in chips)
Seat 2: Swansen (3040 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (5047 in chips)
Seat 4: M.Yada (5545 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (18425 in chips)
Seat 6: fhaugen (8880 in chips)
Seat 7: robert07 (9765 in chips)
Seat 8: pOmPaNoPiMp (6750 in chips)
Seat 9: KolliMong (12840 in chips)
Swansen: posts small blind 100
amatos: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***

Mesa hiperagresiva: Mano de NP

PokerStars Game #12551359630: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2007/10/10 - 16:41:14 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (3240 in chips)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (24250 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (24607 in chips)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (33944 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (24374 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (27689 in chips)
Seat 7: ackafman (5129 in chips)
Seat 8: GRinDer444 (27274 in chips)
Seat 9: chengsuzu (10754 in chips)
electron 1 1: posts the ante 75
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 75
amatos: posts the ante 75
IchhabRücken: posts the ante 75
loorent: posts the ante 75
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 75
ackafman: posts the ante 75
GRinDer444: posts the ante 75
chengsuzu: posts the ante 75
electron 1 1: posts small blind 400
LuckySharkPT: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [2s 2h]
amatos: folds
IchhabRücken: raises 1450 to 2250
loorent: folds
Hudzzzzz: folds
ackafman: raises 2804 to 5054 and is all-in
GRinDer444: folds
chengsuzu: folds
electron 1 1: folds
LuckySharkPT: calls 4254
IchhabRücken: calls 2804
*** FLOP *** [6c Kh Kc]
LuckySharkPT: checks
IchhabRücken: checks
*** TURN *** [6c Kh Kc] [7d]
LuckySharkPT: checks
IchhabRücken: bets 3250
LuckySharkPT: folds
*** RIVER *** [6c Kh Kc 7d] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IchhabRücken: shows [7h 7s] (a full house, Sevens full of Kings)
ackafman: shows [Qc Ad] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
IchhabRücken collected 16237 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 16237 | Rake 0
Board [6c Kh Kc 7d 6d]
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: amatos folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken showed [7h 7s] and won (16237) with a full house, Sevens full of Kings
Seat 5: loorent folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ackafman showed [Qc Ad] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 8: GRinDer444 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: chengsuzu (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Y llega el segundo movimiento bastante arriesgado

PokerStars Game #12551452848: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2007/10/10 - 16:46:20 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (7780 in chips)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (18096 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (22467 in chips)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (39477 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (22374 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (35139 in chips)
Seat 8: GRinDer444 (22615 in chips)
Seat 9: chengsuzu (13313 in chips)
electron 1 1: posts the ante 100
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 100
amatos: posts the ante 100
IchhabRücken: posts the ante 100
loorent: posts the ante 100
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 100
GRinDer444: posts the ante 100
chengsuzu: posts the ante 100
electron 1 1: posts small blind 500
LuckySharkPT: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [As Kh]
amatos: raises 2000 to 3000
IchhabRücken: folds
loorent: folds
Hudzzzzz: calls 3000
GRinDer444: folds
chengsuzu: folds
electron 1 1: folds
LuckySharkPT: folds
*** FLOP *** [3d 8d Ts]
amatos: checks
Hudzzzzz: bets 6000
KojGysto is connected
amatos: raises 13367 to 19367 and is all-in
Hudzzzzz: folds
amatos collected 20300 from pot
amatos: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 20300 | Rake 0
Board [3d 8d Ts]
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: amatos collected (20300)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: loorent folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz folded on the Flop
Seat 8: GRinDer444 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: chengsuzu (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

mano sencilla

PokerStars Game #12551546930: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2007/10/10 - 16:51:30 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (8880 in chips)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (18296 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (31567 in chips)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (37277 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (22574 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (50754 in chips)
Seat 7: KojGysto (25101 in chips)
Seat 9: chengsuzu (11613 in chips)
electron 1 1: posts the ante 100
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 100
amatos: posts the ante 100
IchhabRücken: posts the ante 100
loorent: posts the ante 100
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 100
KojGysto: posts the ante 100
chengsuzu: posts the ante 100
chengsuzu: posts small blind 500
electron 1 1: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Kh Ad]
LuckySharkPT: folds
amatos: raises 2000 to 3000
IchhabRücken: calls 3000
loorent: folds
Hudzzzzz: folds
KojGysto: folds
chengsuzu: raises 8513 to 11513 and is all-in
electron 1 1: folds
amatos: raises 19954 to 31467 and is all-in
IchhabRücken: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qs 5h 2d]
SobraoBoY [observer] said, "gogog"
*** TURN *** [Qs 5h 2d] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 5h 2d Kc] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chengsuzu: shows [Js Ks] (a pair of Kings)
amatos: shows [Kh Ad] (a pair of Kings - Ace kicker)
amatos collected 27826 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 27826 | Rake 0
Board [Qs 5h 2d Kc Th]
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: amatos showed [Kh Ad] and won (27826) with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: IchhabRücken folded before Flop
Seat 5: loorent folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: KojGysto (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: chengsuzu (small blind) showed [Js Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings

2ª mano: Call con posición. Veo apuesta flop para ver que hace en cuarta

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PokerStars Game #12550076716: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/10/10 - 15:32:49 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: DPRODIGY (18980 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (8087 in chips)
Seat 4: M.Yada (4845 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (28005 in chips)
Seat 6: GambleAB (8183 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
Seat 7: robert07 (9765 in chips)
Seat 8: pOmPaNoPiMp (6750 in chips)
Seat 9: KolliMong (12840 in chips)
robert07: posts small blind 100
pOmPaNoPiMp: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [8s 8c]
KolliMong: raises 400 to 600
DPRODIGY: calls 600
kargol.tlse [observer] said, "wow gg loorent go cp"
amatos: calls 600
M.Yada: folds
loorent: folds
robert07: folds
pOmPaNoPiMp: folds
*** FLOP *** [6c Ac Ks]
KolliMong: bets 1000
DPRODIGY: folds
amatos: calls 1000
*** TURN *** [6c Ac Ks] [7h]
KolliMong: checks
amatos: bets 3400
KolliMong said, "nice flush draw"
KolliMong: folds
amatos collected 4100 from pot
amatos: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4100 | Rake 0
Board [6c Ac Ks 7h]
Seat 1: DPRODIGY folded on the Flop
Seat 3: amatos collected (4100)
Seat 4: M.Yada folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: loorent (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: robert07 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: pOmPaNoPiMp (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: KolliMong folded on the Turn

3 Mano: Call preflop. Idem Veo el cont para ver que hace en cuarta

PokerStars Game #12550204880: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (150/300) - 2007/10/10 - 15:39:18 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: DPRODIGY (18030 in chips)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (12325 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (10537 in chips)
Seat 4: M.Yada (4445 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (27505 in chips)
Seat 6: GambleAB (8133 in chips)
Seat 7: robert07 (9015 in chips)
Seat 9: KolliMong (19190 in chips)
DPRODIGY: posts the ante 25
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 25
amatos: posts the ante 25
M.Yada: posts the ante 25
loorent: posts the ante 25
GambleAB: posts the ante 25
robert07: posts the ante 25
KolliMong: posts the ante 25
GambleAB: posts small blind 150
robert07: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Qs Js]
KolliMong: raises 600 to 900
DPRODIGY: folds
LuckySharkPT: folds
amatos: calls 900
M.Yada: folds
loorent: folds
GambleAB: folds
robert07: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qh 3s 3c]
KolliMong: bets 1500
amatos: calls 1500
*** TURN *** [Qh 3s 3c] [Jc]
KolliMong: checks
amatos: bets 8112 and is all-in
KolliMong: calls 8112
*** RIVER *** [Qh 3s 3c Jc] [Jd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KolliMong: shows [Qd Ah] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
amatos: shows [Qs Js] (a full house, Jacks full of Queens)
amatos collected 21674 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 21674 | Rake 0
Board [Qh 3s 3c Jc Jd]
Seat 1: DPRODIGY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: amatos showed [Qs Js] and won (21674) with a full house, Jacks full of Queens
Seat 4: M.Yada folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: loorent (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: GambleAB (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: robert07 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: KolliMong showed [Qd Ah] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks

Mano 4: Esta me la como doblada. Todo por sacar provecho a manos como 1010/99 etc. En notas le tenía ¨BUen jugador, pero farolero)

PokerStars Game #12550259668: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (150/300) - 2007/10/10 - 15:42:09 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: DPRODIGY (17480 in chips)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (11925 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (21599 in chips)
Seat 4: M.Yada (4995 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (27405 in chips)
Seat 6: GambleAB (7883 in chips)
Seat 7: robert07 (9115 in chips)
Seat 8: Teach Me Pls (10878 in chips)
Seat 9: KolliMong (8778 in chips)
DPRODIGY: posts the ante 25
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 25
amatos: posts the ante 25
M.Yada: posts the ante 25
loorent: posts the ante 25
GambleAB: posts the ante 25
robert07: posts the ante 25
Teach Me Pls: posts the ante 25
KolliMong: posts the ante 25
LuckySharkPT: posts small blind 150
amatos: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Ac Js]
M.Yada: folds
loorent: folds
GambleAB: folds
robert07: raises 540 to 840
Teach Me Pls: folds
KolliMong: folds
DPRODIGY: folds
LuckySharkPT: folds
amatos: calls 540
*** FLOP *** [Jc 6s 7d]
amatos: checks
robert07: bets 1350
amatos: calls 1350
*** TURN *** [Jc 6s 7d] [6c]
amatos: checks
robert07: checks
*** RIVER *** [Jc 6s 7d 6c] [6d]
amatos: bets 2400
robert07: raises 4500 to 6900 and is all-in
amatos: calls 4500
*** SHOW DOWN ***
robert07: shows [Kc Ks] (a full house, Sixes full of Kings)
amatos: shows [Ac Js] (a full house, Sixes full of Jacks)
robert07 collected 18555 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18555 | Rake 0
Board [Jc 6s 7d 6c 6d]
Seat 1: DPRODIGY (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: amatos (big blind) showed [Ac Js] and lost with a full house, Sixes full of Jacks
Seat 4: M.Yada folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: loorent folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: GambleAB folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: robert07 showed [Kc Ks] and won (18555) with a full house, Sixes full of Kings
Seat 8: Teach Me Pls folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: KolliMong folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Primera locura del día. Este tipo había hecho dos resteel, y le gustaba trobar. Decido que le voy a hacer push venga lo que venga:

PokerStars Game #12550502758: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/10/10 - 15:55:13 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: DPRODIGY (22958 in chips)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (11000 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (13609 in chips)
Seat 4: M.Yada (5770 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (45206 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (27155 in chips)
Seat 7: robert07 (17540 in chips)
Seat 8: GRinDer444 (10585 in chips)
Seat 9: typhoon321 (10195 in chips)
DPRODIGY: posts the ante 25
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 25
amatos: posts the ante 25
M.Yada: posts the ante 25
loorent: posts the ante 25
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 25
robert07: posts the ante 25
GRinDer444: posts the ante 25
typhoon321: posts the ante 25
robert07: posts small blind 200
GRinDer444: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Tc Ac]
typhoon321: calls 400
DPRODIGY: raises 1200 to 1600
LuckySharkPT: folds
amatos: calls 1600
M.Yada: folds
loorent: folds
Hudzzzzz: folds
robert07: folds
GRinDer444: folds
typhoon321: calls 1200
*** FLOP *** [2s Jh 8s]
typhoon321: checks
DPRODIGY: bets 3200
amatos: raises 8784 to 11984 and is all-in
typhoon321: folds
DPRODIGY: folds
amatos collected 12025 from pot
amatos: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 12025 | Rake 0
Board [2s Jh 8s]
Seat 1: DPRODIGY folded on the Flop
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: amatos collected (12025)
Seat 4: M.Yada folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: loorent folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: robert07 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: GRinDer444 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: typhoon321 folded on the Flop

Mano con miedo...

PokerStars Game #12550670112: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/10/10 - 16:04:09 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: DPRODIGY (23103 in chips)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (21900 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (21984 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (34306 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (27105 in chips)
Seat 7: robert07 (15190 in chips)
Seat 8: GRinDer444 (19705 in chips)
Seat 9: chengsuzu (24440 in chips)
DPRODIGY: posts the ante 25
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 25
amatos: posts the ante 25
loorent: posts the ante 25
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 25
robert07: posts the ante 25
GRinDer444: posts the ante 25
chengsuzu: posts the ante 25
chengsuzu: posts small blind 200
DPRODIGY: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Td Tc]
LuckySharkPT: folds
amatos: calls 400
loorent: folds
Hudzzzzz: folds
robert07: folds
GRinDer444: raises 924 to 1324
chengsuzu: folds
DPRODIGY: calls 924
amatos: calls 924
*** FLOP *** [7h 8c 2h]
DPRODIGY: checks
amatos: checks
GRinDer444: checks
*** TURN *** [7h 8c 2h] [6s]
DPRODIGY: checks
amatos: checks
GRinDer444: checks
*** RIVER *** [7h 8c 2h 6s] [6d]
DPRODIGY: bets 2400
amatos: calls 2400
GRinDer444: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DPRODIGY: shows [Js Qd] (a pair of Sixes)
amatos: shows [Td Tc] (two pair, Tens and Sixes)
amatos collected 9172 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9172 | Rake 0
Board [7h 8c 2h 6s 6d]
Seat 1: DPRODIGY (big blind) showed [Js Qd] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: amatos showed [Td Tc] and won (9172) with two pair, Tens and Sixes
Seat 5: loorent folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: robert07 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: GRinDer444 (button) folded on the River
Seat 9: chengsuzu (small blind) folded before Flop

Esta antes la fodeaba, pero consideré que podía aprovecharse deque iba ben en el torneo. No me gustó su reraise exagerado

PokerStars Game #12551007137: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/10/10 - 16:22:07 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: DPRODIGY (23804 in chips)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (24250 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (25257 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (29324 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (33680 in chips)
Seat 7: Tmay420 (3029 in chips)
Seat 8: GRinDer444 (27808 in chips)
Seat 9: chengsuzu (17329 in chips)
DPRODIGY: posts the ante 50
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 50
amatos: posts the ante 50
loorent: posts the ante 50
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 50
Tmay420: posts the ante 50
GRinDer444: posts the ante 50
chengsuzu: posts the ante 50
loorent: posts small blind 300
Hudzzzzz: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Qh As]
Tmay420: folds
GRinDer444: folds
chengsuzu: folds
GRinDer444 said, "ty"
DPRODIGY: folds
LuckySharkPT: folds
amatos: raises 1200 to 1800
loorent: folds
Tmay420 said, "standard utg table move"
Hudzzzzz: raises 7200 to 9000
amatos: raises 16207 to 25207 and is all-in
Hudzzzzz: folds
amatos collected 18700 from pot
amatos: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18700 | Rake 0
Seat 1: DPRODIGY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: amatos (button) collected (18700)
Seat 5: loorent (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Tmay420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: GRinDer444 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: chengsuzu folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Mano: Aquí no sé si me dará por odds, pero me la sopla. Yo eso lo foldeo lol

PokerStars Game #12551304640: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2007/10/10 - 16:38:13 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (26875 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (31232 in chips)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (19444 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (24599 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (31284 in chips)
Seat 7: ackafman (5754 in chips)
Seat 8: GRinDer444 (28699 in chips)
Seat 9: chengsuzu (12179 in chips)
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 75
amatos: posts the ante 75
IchhabRücken: posts the ante 75
loorent: posts the ante 75
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 75
ackafman: posts the ante 75
GRinDer444: posts the ante 75
chengsuzu: posts the ante 75
ackafman: posts small blind 400
GRinDer444: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [5d 5c]
chengsuzu: folds
LuckySharkPT: raises 1600 to 2400
amatos: raises 4000 to 6400
IchhabRücken: raises 8000 to 14400
loorent: folds
Hudzzzzz: folds
ackafman: folds
GRinDer444: folds
electron 1 1 is connected
LuckySharkPT: folds
amatos: folds
loorent said, "nh"
IchhabRücken collected 17000 from pot
IchhabRücken: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 17000 | Rake 0
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT folded before Flop
Seat 3: amatos folded before Flop
Seat 4: IchhabRücken collected (17000)
Seat 5: loorent folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ackafman (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: GRinDer444 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: chengsuzu folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Esta me joíó más adelante, pues este tipo, no dejaba de hacer push en cuanto había dinero en la mesa. Creo que si le envido le puedo tirar, pero na...

PokerStars Game #12551609258: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2007/10/10 - 16:54:57 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (7380 in chips)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (17296 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (42880 in chips)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (30500 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (25874 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (53754 in chips)
Seat 7: KojGysto (28678 in chips)
Seat 8: sirraffay (52620 in chips)
electron 1 1: posts the ante 100
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 100
amatos: posts the ante 100
IchhabRücken: posts the ante 100
loorent: posts the ante 100
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 100
KojGysto: posts the ante 100
sirraffay: posts the ante 100
Hudzzzzz: posts small blind 500
KojGysto: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [8h 8s]
sirraffay: raises 1350 to 2350
electron 1 1: folds
LuckySharkPT: folds
amatos: calls 2350
IchhabRücken: calls 2350
loorent: folds
Hudzzzzz: raises 7650 to 10000
KojGysto: folds
sirraffay: folds
amatos: folds
IchhabRücken: folds
Hudzzzzz collected 11200 from pot
Hudzzzzz: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11200 | Rake 0
Seat 1: electron 1 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: amatos folded before Flop
Seat 4: IchhabRücken folded before Flop
Seat 5: loorent (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (small blind) collected (11200)
Seat 7: KojGysto (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: sirraffay folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #12551696778: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (600/1200) - 2007/10/10 - 16:59:49 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (14635 in chips)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (15171 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (37705 in chips)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (29725 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (20469 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (61979 in chips)
Seat 7: KojGysto (28853 in chips)
Seat 8: sirraffay (50445 in chips)
electron 1 1: posts the ante 125
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 125
amatos: posts the ante 125
IchhabRücken: posts the ante 125
loorent: posts the ante 125
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 125
KojGysto: posts the ante 125
sirraffay: posts the ante 125
IchhabRücken: posts small blind 600
loorent: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Ad Qs]
Hudzzzzz: folds
KojGysto: raises 2133 to 3333
sirraffay: folds
electron 1 1: folds
LuckySharkPT: folds
amatos: raises 6667 to 10000
IchhabRücken: folds
loorent: folds
KojGysto: folds
amatos collected 9466 from pot
amatos: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9466 | Rake 0
Seat 1: electron 1 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: amatos (button) collected (9466)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: loorent (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: KojGysto folded before Flop
Seat 8: sirraffay folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Esta es la que comento del tipo que le encanta el push

PokerStars Game #12551711732: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (600/1200) - 2007/10/10 - 17:00:38 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (14510 in chips)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (15046 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (43713 in chips)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (29000 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (19144 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (61854 in chips)
Seat 7: KojGysto (25395 in chips)
Seat 8: sirraffay (50320 in chips)
electron 1 1: posts the ante 125
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 125
amatos: posts the ante 125
IchhabRücken: posts the ante 125
loorent: posts the ante 125
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 125
KojGysto: posts the ante 125
sirraffay: posts the ante 125
loorent: posts small blind 600
Hudzzzzz: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [7d 7c]
KojGysto: folds
sirraffay: raises 1900 to 3100
electron 1 1: folds
LuckySharkPT: folds
amatos: calls 3100
IchhabRücken: folds
loorent: folds
Hudzzzzz: raises 58629 to 61729 and is all-in
sirraffay: folds
amatos: folds
Hudzzzzz collected 10900 from pot
Hudzzzzz: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10900 | Rake 0
Seat 1: electron 1 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: amatos folded before Flop
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: loorent (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (big blind) collected (10900)
Seat 7: KojGysto folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: sirraffay folded before Flop

Tipo tigh. NO problems poker

PokerStars Game #12551770859: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (600/1200) - 2007/10/10 - 17:03:54 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (14760 in chips)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (15296 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (41463 in chips)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (28250 in chips)
Seat 5: loorent (17794 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (71104 in chips)
Seat 7: KojGysto (22845 in chips)
Seat 8: sirraffay (47470 in chips)
electron 1 1: posts the ante 125
LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 125
amatos: posts the ante 125
IchhabRücken: posts the ante 125
loorent: posts the ante 125
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 125
KojGysto: posts the ante 125
sirraffay: posts the ante 125
amatos: posts small blind 600
IchhabRücken: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [7c 7s]
loorent: folds
Hudzzzzz: folds
KojGysto: raises 2133 to 3333
sirraffay: folds
electron 1 1: folds
LuckySharkPT is disconnected
LuckySharkPT has timed out while disconnected
LuckySharkPT: folds
LuckySharkPT is sitting out
amatos: folds
IchhabRücken: folds
KojGysto collected 4000 from pot
KojGysto: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4000 | Rake 0
Seat 1: electron 1 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: amatos (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: loorent folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: KojGysto collected (4000)
Seat 8: sirraffay folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Mano en la que necesito fichas. UN poco de riesgo

PokerStars Game #12552511622: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1000/2000) - 2007/10/10 - 17:45:09 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (9414 in chips)
Seat 2: jimbomber (83057 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (31763 in chips)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (65966 in chips)
Seat 5: 7Holms (33749 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (92604 in chips)
Seat 7: Pe-T (35670 in chips)
electron 1 1: posts the ante 200
jimbomber: posts the ante 200
amatos: posts the ante 200
IchhabRücken: posts the ante 200
7Holms: posts the ante 200
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 200
Pe-T: posts the ante 200
IchhabRücken: posts small blind 1000
7Holms: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Js Kd]
Hudzzzzz: folds
Pe-T: folds
electron 1 1: folds
jimbomber: raises 4000 to 6000
amatos: raises 18000 to 24000
IchhabRücken: folds
7Holms: folds
jimbomber: folds
amatos collected 16400 from pot
amatos: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 16400 | Rake 0
Seat 1: electron 1 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jimbomber folded before Flop
Seat 3: amatos (button) collected (16400)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: 7Holms (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Pe-T folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Aqui la idea es hacer call, para hacer Check Raise all in salga lo que salga. Al salir premio lo que intento es sacarle todo...

PokerStars Game #12552582671: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1000/2000) - 2007/10/10 - 17:49:06 (ET)
Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: electron 1 1 (18428 in chips)
Seat 2: jimbomber (63643 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (54163 in chips)
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (63966 in chips)
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (118353 in chips)
Seat 7: Pe-T (33670 in chips)
electron 1 1: posts the ante 200
jimbomber: posts the ante 200
amatos: posts the ante 200
IchhabRücken: posts the ante 200
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 200
Pe-T: posts the ante 200
amatos: posts small blind 1000
IchhabRücken: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [5d 5c]
Hudzzzzz: folds
Pe-T: folds
electron 1 1: folds
jimbomber: raises 4000 to 6000
amatos: calls 5000
IchhabRücken: folds
*** FLOP *** [2h 5s 2c]
amatos: bets 5000
jimbomber: raises 7000 to 12000
amatos: calls 7000
*** TURN *** [2h 5s 2c] [Ac]
amatos: bets 10000
jimbomber: raises 28000 to 38000
amatos: calls 25963 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [2h 5s 2c Ac] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
amatos: shows [5d 5c] (a full house, Fives full of Deuces)
jimbomber: shows [4d Ah] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
amatos collected 111126 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 111126 | Rake 0
Board [2h 5s 2c Ac Qh]
Seat 1: electron 1 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jimbomber (button) showed [4d Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Deuces
Seat 3: amatos (small blind) showed [5d 5c] and won (111126) with a full house, Fives full of Deuces
Seat 4: IchhabRücken (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Hudzzzzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Pe-T folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Mano en la que de nuevo, paso de odds. Para mi fold claro

PokerStars Game #12552763819: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1500/3000) - 2007/10/10 - 17:59:12 (ET)
Table '63175218 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: FishList_net (42830 in chips)
Seat 3: hoodini10 (75944 in chips)
Seat 4: slammedfire (123271 in chips)
Seat 5: amatos (109626 in chips)
Seat 7: sirraffay (103255 in chips)
Seat 8: Dracospinner (283779 in chips)
Seat 9: blueyes13008 (8612 in chips)
FishList_net: posts the ante 300
hoodini10: posts the ante 300
slammedfire: posts the ante 300
amatos: posts the ante 300
sirraffay: posts the ante 300
Dracospinner: posts the ante 300
blueyes13008: posts the ante 300
hoodini10: posts small blind 1500
slammedfire: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [5h 5c]
amatos: raises 5000 to 8000
sirraffay: folds
Dracospinner: folds
blueyes13008: folds
FishList_net: raises 34530 to 42530 and is all-in
hoodini10: folds
slammedfire: folds
amatos: folds
FishList_net collected 22600 from pot
FishList_net: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 22600 | Rake 0
Seat 2: FishList_net (button) collected (22600)
Seat 3: hoodini10 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: slammedfire (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: amatos folded before Flop
Seat 7: sirraffay folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Dracospinner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: blueyes13008 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

UN poquito de candela

PokerStars Game #12552790921: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1500/3000) - 2007/10/10 - 18:00:42 (ET)
Table '63175218 4' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: FishList_net (56830 in chips)
Seat 3: hoodini10 (88443 in chips)
Seat 4: slammedfire (118171 in chips)
Seat 5: amatos (98026 in chips)
Seat 7: sirraffay (94656 in chips)
Seat 8: Dracospinner (283179 in chips)
Seat 9: blueyes13008 (8012 in chips)
FishList_net: posts the ante 300
hoodini10: posts the ante 300
slammedfire: posts the ante 300
amatos: posts the ante 300
sirraffay: posts the ante 300
Dracospinner: posts the ante 300
blueyes13008: posts the ante 300
amatos: posts small blind 1500
sirraffay: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [9s 9h]
Dracospinner: folds
blueyes13008: folds
FishList_net: raises 5765 to 8765
hoodini10: folds
slammedfire: folds
amatos: raises 25235 to 34000
sirraffay: folds
FishList_net: folds
amatos collected 22630 from pot
amatos: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 22630 | Rake 0
Seat 2: FishList_net folded before Flop
Seat 3: hoodini10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: slammedfire (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: amatos (small blind) collected (22630)
Seat 7: sirraffay (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Dracospinner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: blueyes13008 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Mano sencilla

PokerStars Game #12552858618: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1500/3000) - 2007/10/10 - 18:04:27 (ET)
Table '63175218 4' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: FishList_net (40953 in chips)
Seat 3: hoodini10 (88743 in chips)
Seat 4: slammedfire (116159 in chips)
Seat 5: amatos (110091 in chips)
Seat 7: sirraffay (93456 in chips)
Seat 8: Dracospinner (284979 in chips)
Seat 9: blueyes13008 (12936 in chips)
FishList_net: posts the ante 300
hoodini10: posts the ante 300
slammedfire: posts the ante 300
amatos: posts the ante 300
sirraffay: posts the ante 300
Dracospinner: posts the ante 300
blueyes13008: posts the ante 300
slammedfire: posts small blind 1500
amatos: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Kh Kc]
sirraffay: folds
Dracospinner: raises 6000 to 9000
blueyes13008: raises 3636 to 12636 and is all-in
FishList_net: folds
hoodini10: folds
slammedfire: calls 11136
amatos: raises 97155 to 109791 and is all-in
Dracospinner: folds
slammedfire: folds
*** FLOP *** [6c 9c Ts]
*** TURN *** [6c 9c Ts] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [6c 9c Ts Qc] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
amatos: shows [Kh Kc] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
blueyes13008: shows [5c 5s] (two pair, Sixes and Fives)
amatos collected 49008 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 49008 | Rake 0
Board [6c 9c Ts Qc 6d]
Seat 2: FishList_net folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: hoodini10 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: slammedfire (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: amatos (big blind) showed [Kh Kc] and won (49008) with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 7: sirraffay folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Dracospinner folded before Flop
Seat 9: blueyes13008 showed [5c 5s] and lost with two pair, Sixes and Fives

De nuevo no me gusta el que pega.. Tranquilidad

PokerStars Game #12553033661: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (2000/4000) - 2007/10/10 - 18:14:16 (ET)
Table '63175218 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Pe-T (64680 in chips)
Seat 2: FishList_net (33053 in chips)
Seat 3: DOTTT (60633 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
Seat 4: slammedfire (138666 in chips)
Seat 5: amatos (138063 in chips)
Seat 6: aakkari (252024 in chips)
Seat 7: sirraffay (172632 in chips)
Seat 8: Dracospinner (264903 in chips)
Seat 9: Hudzzzzz (89346 in chips)
Pe-T: posts the ante 400
FishList_net: posts the ante 400
slammedfire: posts the ante 400
amatos: posts the ante 400
aakkari: posts the ante 400
sirraffay: posts the ante 400
Dracospinner: posts the ante 400
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 400
slammedfire: posts small blind 2000
amatos: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Ah Jd]
amatos said, "GG"
aakkari is connected
aakkari: folds
sirraffay: folds
Dracospinner: folds
Hudzzzzz: raises 8000 to 12000
aakkari said, "gl all!"
DougBargBR [observer] said, "ficha neles"
McTz313 [observer] said, "andre, can i ask u something???"
Pe-T: folds
aakkari said, "sure"
passinao [observer] said, "vamoooooooooos"
FishList_net: folds
ricardotaki [observer] said, "congrats all..."
slammedfire: folds
Joao M. [observer] said, "vamo vovo"
amatos: folds
Luis82 [observer] said, "hola"
Hudzzzzz collected 13200 from pot
Hudzzzzz: doesn't show hand
ffbigfoot [observer] said, "."
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13200 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Pe-T folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: FishList_net (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: slammedfire (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: amatos (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: aakkari folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: sirraffay folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Dracospinner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Hudzzzzz collected (13200)

La mesa está hiperagresiva. A pesar de mi imagen tigh, no me dejan moverme mucho

PokerStars Game #12553084156: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (2000/4000) - 2007/10/10 - 18:17:07 (ET)
Table '63175218 4' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Pe-T (63080 in chips)
Seat 2: FishList_net (41053 in chips)
Seat 3: DOTTT (69033 in chips)
Seat 4: slammedfire (135066 in chips)
Seat 5: amatos (130463 in chips)
Seat 6: aakkari (244424 in chips)
Seat 7: sirraffay (163032 in chips)
Seat 8: Dracospinner (270903 in chips)
Seat 9: Hudzzzzz (96946 in chips)
Pe-T: posts the ante 400
FishList_net: posts the ante 400
DOTTT: posts the ante 400
slammedfire: posts the ante 400
amatos: posts the ante 400
aakkari: posts the ante 400
sirraffay: posts the ante 400
Dracospinner: posts the ante 400
Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 400
Dracospinner: posts small blind 2000
Hudzzzzz: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Th Jd]
Pe-T: folds
fcarrico [observer] said, "vamooooooooooo"
Zeke'sKnicks [observer] said, "i hope no one took that seriously"
FishList_net: folds
DOTTT: folds
slammedfire: folds
OatMealTime [observer] said, "hey mc can i ask you a quetion?"
aakkari said, "tyy felipao"
amatos: raises 6000 to 10000
Mazim@Poker [observer] said, "go akkari gl"
aakkari: folds
OatMealTime [observer] said, "have you ever played high stakes?"
sirraffay: folds
Dracospinner: raises 18000 to 28000
OatMealTime [observer] said, "ok thanks mc"
Bodacious63 [observer] said, "lmao"
Hudzzzzz: folds
amatos: folds
passinao [observer] said, "vamooooos"
OatMealTime [observer] said, ":P"
McTz313 [observer] said, "yes with your sister"
Dracospinner collected 27600 from pot
ChrisThePro [observer] said, "omg, what a chat.............."
Dracospinner: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 27600 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Pe-T folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: FishList_net folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: DOTTT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: slammedfire folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: amatos folded before Flop
Seat 6: aakkari folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: sirraffay (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Dracospinner (small blind) collected (27600)
Seat 9: Hudzzzzz (big blind) folded before Flop

Mano bastante complicada

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PokerStars Game #12553386316: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2500/5000) - 2007/10/10 - 18:34:20 (ET)
Table '63175218 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Pe-T (42380 in chips)
Seat 2: FishList_net (73706 in chips)
Seat 3: DOTTT (68833 in chips)
Seat 4: slammedfire (77013 in chips)
Seat 5: amatos (95763 in chips)
Seat 6: aakkari (66824 in chips)
Seat 7: sirraffay (246178 in chips)
Seat 8: Dracospinner (543303 in chips)
Pe-T: posts the ante 500
FishList_net: posts the ante 500
DOTTT: posts the ante 500
slammedfire: posts the ante 500
amatos: posts the ante 500
aakkari: posts the ante 500
sirraffay: posts the ante 500
Dracospinner: posts the ante 500
aakkari: posts small blind 2500
sirraffay: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [As Ad]
Dracospinner: folds
Pe-T: raises 36880 to 41880 and is all-in
FishList_net: folds
DOTTT: folds
slammedfire: folds
amatos: raises 53383 to 95263 and is all-in
aakkari: folds
sirraffay: folds
KipsterDK [observer] said, "lol @ Anette being hot"
*** FLOP *** [9c 2d 3s]
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "gg"
*** TURN *** [9c 2d 3s] [7c]
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "gg"
Bodacious63 [observer] said, "gg"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "gg"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "g"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "gg"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "g"
*** RIVER *** [9c 2d 3s 7c] [2s]
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "g"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "g"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "g"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "g"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "g"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "g"
kardnam [observer] said, "gg"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "g"
DougBargBR [observer] said, "gg"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "g"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Pe-T: shows [Td Ah] (a pair of Deuces)
amatos: shows [As Ad] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
aakkari said, "gg"
amatos collected 95260 from pot
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "amatosssssssssss"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 95260 | Rake 0
Board [9c 2d 3s 7c 2s]
Seat 1: Pe-T showed [Td Ah] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 2: FishList_net folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: DOTTT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: slammedfire folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: amatos (button) showed [As Ad] and won (95260) with two pair, Aces and Deuces
Seat 6: aakkari (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: sirraffay (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Dracospinner folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Y la que definitivamente me mata.. agggggggggggggggggg

PokerStars Game #12553492893: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (3000/6000) - 2007/10/10 - 18:40:29 (ET)
Table '63175218 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: FishList_net (140812 in chips)
Seat 4: slammedfire (68413 in chips)
Seat 5: amatos (158043 in chips)
Seat 6: aakkari (83224 in chips)
Seat 7: sirraffay (171472 in chips)
Seat 8: Dracospinner (592036 in chips)
FishList_net: posts the ante 600
slammedfire: posts the ante 600
amatos: posts the ante 600
aakkari: posts the ante 600
sirraffay: posts the ante 600
Dracospinner: posts the ante 600
slammedfire: posts small blind 3000
amatos: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Qd Ac]
pakito13 [observer] said, "SOBRA !! has ido a barna?"
aakkari: folds
sirraffay: folds
Dracospinner: folds
FishList_net: raises 134212 to 140212 and is all-in
slammedfire: folds
amatos: calls 134212
pakito13 [observer] said, "a jugar el satelite?"
*** FLOP *** [6h 5c 3d]
"*** TURN *** [6h 5c 3d] [9s]
SobraoBoY [observer] said, "no"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "q"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "q"
*** RIVER *** [6h 5c 3d 9s] [Jd]
Bodacious63 [observer] said, "j"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "q"
Bodacious63 [observer] said, "j"

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 287024 | Rake 0
Board [6h 5c 3d 9s Jd]
Seat 2: FishList_net (button) showed [Js Ah] and won (287024) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 4: slammedfire (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: amatos (big blind) showed [Qd Ac] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 6: aakkari folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: sirraffay folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Dracospinner folded before Flop (didn't bet)

amatos · 11-10-2007, 11:12:42

Una mano del 50RB, que como mínimo me parece interesante. Creo que mi error es no hacer push, si igualmente después pienso verlo.

PokerStars Game #12551945996: Tournament #63175231, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/10/10 - 17:13:37 (ET)
Table '63175231 24' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Villeroi (19755 in chips)
Seat 2: qualle400 (16618 in chips)
Seat 3: amatos (41555 in chips)
Seat 4: dikkechill (5885 in chips)
Seat 5: kuparinen (20500 in chips)
Seat 6: Homeless (15663 in chips)
Seat 7: pagaille (28562 in chips)
Seat 8: Wibez (4818 in chips)
Seat 9: Surfludde (12967 in chips)
Villeroi: posts the ante 25
qualle400: posts the ante 25
amatos: posts the ante 25
dikkechill: posts the ante 25
kuparinen: posts the ante 25
Homeless: posts the ante 25
pagaille: posts the ante 25
Wibez: posts the ante 25
Surfludde: posts the ante 25
qualle400: posts small blind 200
amatos: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Td 6s]
dikkechill: folds
kuparinen: folds
Homeless: folds
Surfludde said, "you had to have that huh"
pagaille: folds
Wibez: folds
Surfludde: folds
Villeroi: raises 600 to 1000
qualle400: raises 1800 to 2800
amatos: raises 4000 to 6800
Villeroi: folds
qualle400: raises 9793 to 16593 and is all-in
amatos: calls 9793
*** FLOP *** [As 3s 8h]
*** TURN *** [As 3s 8h] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [As 3s 8h Qc] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
qualle400: shows [8s 8d] (three of a kind, Eights)
amatos: shows [Td 6s] (a pair of Tens)
qualle400 collected 34411 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 34411 | Rake 0
Board [As 3s 8h Qc Ts]
Seat 1: Villeroi (button) folded before Flop
Seat 2: qualle400 (small blind) showed [8s 8d] and won (34411) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 3: amatos (big blind) showed [Td 6s] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 4: dikkechill folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kuparinen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Homeless folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: pagaille folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Wibez folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Surfludde folded before Flop (didn't bet)

amatos · 11-10-2007, 11:19:38

La mano que me saca del 100rb es esta, que se me fué la olla en el primer post

PokerStars Game #12553492893: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (3000/6000) - 2007/10/10 - 18:40:29 (ET)
Table '63175218 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: FishList_net (140812 in chips)
Seat 4: slammedfire (68413 in chips)
Seat 5: amatos (158043 in chips)
Seat 6: aakkari (83224 in chips)
Seat 7: sirraffay (171472 in chips)
Seat 8: Dracospinner (592036 in chips)
FishList_net: posts the ante 600
slammedfire: posts the ante 600
amatos: posts the ante 600
aakkari: posts the ante 600
sirraffay: posts the ante 600
Dracospinner: posts the ante 600
slammedfire: posts small blind 3000
amatos: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to amatos [Qd Ac]
pakito13 [observer] said, "SOBRA !! has ido a barna?"
aakkari: folds
sirraffay: folds
Dracospinner: folds
FishList_net: raises 134212 to 140212 and is all-in
slammedfire: folds
amatos: calls 134212
pakito13 [observer] said, "a jugar el satelite?"
*** FLOP *** [6h 5c 3d]
"*** TURN *** [6h 5c 3d] [9s]
SobraoBoY [observer] said, "no"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "q"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "q"
*** RIVER *** [6h 5c 3d 9s] [Jd]
Bodacious63 [observer] said, "j"
CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "q"
Bodacious63 [observer] said, "j"

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 287024 | Rake 0
Board [6h 5c 3d 9s Jd]
Seat 2: FishList_net (button) showed [Js Ah] and won (287024) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 4: slammedfire (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: amatos (big blind) showed [Qd Ac] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 6: aakkari folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: sirraffay folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Dracospinner folded before Flop (didn't bet)

parncito · 11-10-2007, 11:29:37

Yo me hubiera ahorrado esas 9793 ultimas fichas, y aunque hubiera posibilidad de call por pot odds y con posición para mi es un fold claro.
El reraise del villano indica que no es un re-steal y que tiene mano legitima como es el caso.
En esta mano habría preferido dar solo esas 4000 fichas y no dejar que uno de los rivales se me iguale como big stack de la mesa.

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11-10-2007, 10:15:28	#1
amatos Tiburón Fecha de Ingreso: Aug 2006 Mensajes: 724 Reputación: 450	Planteamiento de torneos Ayer no pinché algo gordo de milagro. En el 50Rb y en el 100Bb decidí hacer movimientos que normalmente no hago por temas de riesgo, pero decidí jugar según lo últimamente expuesto por Raul, y os comento como me fué. Como anticipo pongo los finales. Pero emplearé este post para pegar manos que me parezcan interesantes, y espero que alguno pueda comentar que les parece. Miraré de pegar varias manos, Yo no las explicar´ñe, pero espero que alguien me pueda pedir el pq de mis movimientos. A ver si entre todos damos un salto de calidad. Y aquí va como me eliminan de los dos: 1- En el 100Rb quedamos 6 estando en una situación inmejorable para pegar una ostia de 21.000 pavos. A la mierda en una mano que casi me hace romper el ratón PokerStars Game #12553545081: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (3000/6000) - 2007/10/10 - 18:43:25 (ET) Table '63175218 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button Seat 2: FishList_net (287624 in chips) Seat 4: slammedfire (68413 in chips) Seat 5: amatos (11231 in chips) Seat 6: aakkari (70624 in chips) Seat 7: sirraffay (155772 in chips) Seat 8: Dracospinner (620336 in chips) FishList_net: posts the ante 600 slammedfire: posts the ante 600 amatos: posts the ante 600 aakkari: posts the ante 600 sirraffay: posts the ante 600 Dracospinner: posts the ante 600 slammedfire: posts small blind 3000 amatos: posts big blind 6000 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to amatos [Tc Js] aakkari: folds sirraffay: folds TOMMY ONE_K [observer] said, "go amatos" Dracospinner: folds FishList_net: folds slammedfire: raises 6000 to 12000 amatos: calls 4631 and is all-in CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "fold everyone please" * FLOP * [2c 8d Kc] FishList_net said, "gl allin" CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t" * TURN * [2c 8d Kc] [7c] CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t" CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t" CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t" CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t" CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t" CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t" CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t" CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t" CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "tt" CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t" CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "t" * RIVER * [2c 8d Kc 7c] [8s] CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "v" aakkari said, "gg" * SHOW DOWN * slammedfire: shows [Qd Ad] (a pair of Eights) amatos: shows [Tc Js] (a pair of Eights - lower kicker) DougBargBR [observer] said, "gg" slammedfire collected 24862 from pot slammedfire said, "gg amatos" * SUMMARY * Total pot 24862 \| Rake 0 Board [2c 8d Kc 7c 8s] Seat 2: FishList_net (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: slammedfire (small blind) showed [Qd Ad] and won (24862) with a pair of Eights Seat 5: amatos (big blind) showed [Tc Js] and lost with a pair of Eights Seat 6: aakkari folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: sirraffay folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Dracospinner folded before Flop (didn't bet) Este es el 50Rb. Quedamos 29 y cobran 27. Creo que simplemente fué un mal timing. Una putada pues me ponía gordo: PokerStars Game #12553237681: Tournament #63175231, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (600/1200) - 2007/10/10 - 18:25:52 (ET) Table '63175231 12' 9-max Seat #9 is the button Seat 1: ozenc (36646 in chips) Seat 2: Johnster (140943 in chips) Seat 4: sickotexan (28423 in chips) Seat 5: CarteNoire (23419 in chips) Seat 6: amatos (41443 in chips) Seat 7: Homeless (26102 in chips) Seat 8: the abstract (31735 in chips) Seat 9: oa 75 (104582 in chips) ozenc: posts the ante 125 Johnster: posts the ante 125 sickotexan: posts the ante 125 CarteNoire: posts the ante 125 amatos: posts the ante 125 Homeless: posts the ante 125 the abstract: posts the ante 125 oa 75: posts the ante 125 ozenc: posts small blind 600 Johnster: posts big blind 1200 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to amatos [Qs Qh] sickotexan: folds CarteNoire: folds amatos: raises 2400 to 3600 Homeless: folds the abstract: folds oa 75: folds ozenc: raises 6000 to 9600 Johnster: folds amatos: raises 14400 to 24000 ozenc: raises 12521 to 36521 and is all-in amatos: calls 12521 * FLOP * [3h Ah 7d] * TURN * [3h Ah 7d] [Jc] * RIVER * [3h Ah 7d Jc] [Ks] * SHOW DOWN * ozenc: shows [Ad As] (three of a kind, Aces) amatos: shows [Qs Qh] (a pair of Queens) ozenc collected 75242 from pot * SUMMARY * Total pot 75242 \| Rake 0 Board [3h Ah 7d Jc Ks] Seat 1: ozenc (small blind) showed [Ad As] and won (75242) with three of a kind, Aces Seat 2: Johnster (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: sickotexan folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: CarteNoire folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: amatos showed [Qs Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens Seat 7: Homeless folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: the abstract folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: oa 75 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Pero no me preocupa como salgo de los torneos, sinó como llego hasta allí. Ahora me pongo a bucear en el hand history. Espero que comenteiis las manos que colgaré, pues las dos anteriores tienen poco comentario. A ver si me da tiempo esta mañana. Seguramente será un tostón, pero me gustaría oir opiniones. Un saludo

11-10-2007, 11:06:25	#2
amatos Tiburón Fecha de Ingreso: Aug 2006 Mensajes: 724 Reputación: 450	Re: Planteamiento de torneos Para los perezosos, pongo las que considero importantes: Y llega el segundo movimiento bastante arriesgado PokerStars Game #12551452848: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2007/10/10 - 16:46:20 (ET) Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #9 is the button Seat 1: electron 1 1 (7780 in chips) Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (18096 in chips) Seat 3: amatos (22467 in chips) Seat 4: IchhabRücken (39477 in chips) Seat 5: loorent (22374 in chips) Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (35139 in chips) Seat 8: GRinDer444 (22615 in chips) Seat 9: chengsuzu (13313 in chips) electron 1 1: posts the ante 100 LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 100 amatos: posts the ante 100 IchhabRücken: posts the ante 100 loorent: posts the ante 100 Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 100 GRinDer444: posts the ante 100 chengsuzu: posts the ante 100 electron 1 1: posts small blind 500 LuckySharkPT: posts big blind 1000 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to amatos [As Kh] amatos: raises 2000 to 3000 IchhabRücken: folds loorent: folds Hudzzzzz: calls 3000 GRinDer444: folds chengsuzu: folds electron 1 1: folds LuckySharkPT: folds * FLOP * [3d 8d Ts] amatos: checks Hudzzzzz: bets 6000 KojGysto is connected amatos: raises 13367 to 19367 and is all-in Hudzzzzz: folds amatos collected 20300 from pot amatos: doesn't show hand * SUMMARY * Total pot 20300 \| Rake 0 Board [3d 8d Ts] Seat 1: electron 1 1 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 3: amatos collected (20300) Seat 4: IchhabRücken folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: loorent folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: Hudzzzzz folded on the Flop Seat 8: GRinDer444 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: chengsuzu (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Primera locura del día. Este tipo había hecho dos resteel, y le gustaba trobar. Decido que le voy a hacer push venga lo que venga: PokerStars Game #12550502758: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/10/10 - 15:55:13 (ET) Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: DPRODIGY (22958 in chips) Seat 2: LuckySharkPT (11000 in chips) Seat 3: amatos (13609 in chips) Seat 4: M.Yada (5770 in chips) Seat 5: loorent (45206 in chips) Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (27155 in chips) Seat 7: robert07 (17540 in chips) Seat 8: GRinDer444 (10585 in chips) Seat 9: typhoon321 (10195 in chips) DPRODIGY: posts the ante 25 LuckySharkPT: posts the ante 25 amatos: posts the ante 25 M.Yada: posts the ante 25 loorent: posts the ante 25 Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 25 robert07: posts the ante 25 GRinDer444: posts the ante 25 typhoon321: posts the ante 25 robert07: posts small blind 200 GRinDer444: posts big blind 400 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to amatos [Tc Ac] typhoon321: calls 400 DPRODIGY: raises 1200 to 1600 LuckySharkPT: folds amatos: calls 1600 M.Yada: folds loorent: folds Hudzzzzz: folds robert07: folds GRinDer444: folds typhoon321: calls 1200 * FLOP * [2s Jh 8s] typhoon321: checks DPRODIGY: bets 3200 amatos: raises 8784 to 11984 and is all-in typhoon321: folds DPRODIGY: folds amatos collected 12025 from pot amatos: doesn't show hand * SUMMARY * Total pot 12025 \| Rake 0 Board [2s Jh 8s] Seat 1: DPRODIGY folded on the Flop Seat 2: LuckySharkPT folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: amatos collected (12025) Seat 4: M.Yada folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: loorent folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: robert07 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 8: GRinDer444 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: typhoon321 folded on the Flop Mano en la que necesito fichas. UN poco de riesgo PokerStars Game #12552511622: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1000/2000) - 2007/10/10 - 17:45:09 (ET) Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: electron 1 1 (9414 in chips) Seat 2: jimbomber (83057 in chips) Seat 3: amatos (31763 in chips) Seat 4: IchhabRücken (65966 in chips) Seat 5: 7Holms (33749 in chips) Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (92604 in chips) Seat 7: Pe-T (35670 in chips) electron 1 1: posts the ante 200 jimbomber: posts the ante 200 amatos: posts the ante 200 IchhabRücken: posts the ante 200 7Holms: posts the ante 200 Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 200 Pe-T: posts the ante 200 IchhabRücken: posts small blind 1000 7Holms: posts big blind 2000 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to amatos [Js Kd] Hudzzzzz: folds Pe-T: folds electron 1 1: folds jimbomber: raises 4000 to 6000 amatos: raises 18000 to 24000 IchhabRücken: folds 7Holms: folds jimbomber: folds amatos collected 16400 from pot amatos: doesn't show hand * SUMMARY * Total pot 16400 \| Rake 0 Seat 1: electron 1 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: jimbomber folded before Flop Seat 3: amatos (button) collected (16400) Seat 4: IchhabRücken (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 5: 7Holms (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 6: Hudzzzzz folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: Pe-T folded before Flop (didn't bet) Aqui la idea es hacer call, para hacer Check Raise all in salga lo que salga. Al salir premio lo que intento es sacarle todo... PokerStars Game #12552582671: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1000/2000) - 2007/10/10 - 17:49:06 (ET) Table '63175218 18' 9-max Seat #2 is the button Seat 1: electron 1 1 (18428 in chips) Seat 2: jimbomber (63643 in chips) Seat 3: amatos (54163 in chips) Seat 4: IchhabRücken (63966 in chips) Seat 6: Hudzzzzz (118353 in chips) Seat 7: Pe-T (33670 in chips) electron 1 1: posts the ante 200 jimbomber: posts the ante 200 amatos: posts the ante 200 IchhabRücken: posts the ante 200 Hudzzzzz: posts the ante 200 Pe-T: posts the ante 200 amatos: posts small blind 1000 IchhabRücken: posts big blind 2000 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to amatos [5d 5c] Hudzzzzz: folds Pe-T: folds electron 1 1: folds jimbomber: raises 4000 to 6000 amatos: calls 5000 IchhabRücken: folds * FLOP * [2h 5s 2c] amatos: bets 5000 jimbomber: raises 7000 to 12000 amatos: calls 7000 * TURN * [2h 5s 2c] [Ac] amatos: bets 10000 jimbomber: raises 28000 to 38000 amatos: calls 25963 and is all-in * RIVER * [2h 5s 2c Ac] [Qh] * SHOW DOWN * amatos: shows [5d 5c] (a full house, Fives full of Deuces) jimbomber: shows [4d Ah] (two pair, Aces and Deuces) amatos collected 111126 from pot * SUMMARY * Total pot 111126 \| Rake 0 Board [2h 5s 2c Ac Qh] Seat 1: electron 1 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: jimbomber (button) showed [4d Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Deuces Seat 3: amatos (small blind) showed [5d 5c] and won (111126) with a full house, Fives full of Deuces Seat 4: IchhabRücken (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 6: Hudzzzzz folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: Pe-T folded before Flop (didn't bet) Como vereis no es que me la esté jugando cada dos minutos, pero hay manos en las que creo que es necesario arriesgar, no por nuestra mano sinó por lecturas, para poder llegar lejos. Hay muchas en las que me llevo pequeños pots, o reraise sin importancia, pero creo que estas son las mas interesantes... Menudo tostoooon

11-10-2007, 11:12:42	#4
amatos Tiburón Fecha de Ingreso: Aug 2006 Mensajes: 724 Reputación: 450	Re: Planteamiento de torneos Una mano del 50RB, que como mínimo me parece interesante. Creo que mi error es no hacer push, si igualmente después pienso verlo. PokerStars Game #12551945996: Tournament #63175231, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/10/10 - 17:13:37 (ET) Table '63175231 24' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: Villeroi (19755 in chips) Seat 2: qualle400 (16618 in chips) Seat 3: amatos (41555 in chips) Seat 4: dikkechill (5885 in chips) Seat 5: kuparinen (20500 in chips) Seat 6: Homeless (15663 in chips) Seat 7: pagaille (28562 in chips) Seat 8: Wibez (4818 in chips) Seat 9: Surfludde (12967 in chips) Villeroi: posts the ante 25 qualle400: posts the ante 25 amatos: posts the ante 25 dikkechill: posts the ante 25 kuparinen: posts the ante 25 Homeless: posts the ante 25 pagaille: posts the ante 25 Wibez: posts the ante 25 Surfludde: posts the ante 25 qualle400: posts small blind 200 amatos: posts big blind 400 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to amatos [Td 6s] dikkechill: folds kuparinen: folds Homeless: folds Surfludde said, "you had to have that huh" pagaille: folds Wibez: folds Surfludde: folds Villeroi: raises 600 to 1000 qualle400: raises 1800 to 2800 amatos: raises 4000 to 6800 Villeroi: folds qualle400: raises 9793 to 16593 and is all-in amatos: calls 9793 * FLOP * [As 3s 8h] * TURN * [As 3s 8h] [Qc] * RIVER * [As 3s 8h Qc] [Ts] * SHOW DOWN * qualle400: shows [8s 8d] (three of a kind, Eights) amatos: shows [Td 6s] (a pair of Tens) qualle400 collected 34411 from pot * SUMMARY * Total pot 34411 \| Rake 0 Board [As 3s 8h Qc Ts] Seat 1: Villeroi (button) folded before Flop Seat 2: qualle400 (small blind) showed [8s 8d] and won (34411) with three of a kind, Eights Seat 3: amatos (big blind) showed [Td 6s] and lost with a pair of Tens Seat 4: dikkechill folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: kuparinen folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: Homeless folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: pagaille folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Wibez folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: Surfludde folded before Flop (didn't bet)

11-10-2007, 11:19:38	#5
amatos Tiburón Fecha de Ingreso: Aug 2006 Mensajes: 724 Reputación: 450	Re: Planteamiento de torneos La mano que me saca del 100rb es esta, que se me fué la olla en el primer post PokerStars Game #12553492893: Tournament #63175218, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (3000/6000) - 2007/10/10 - 18:40:29 (ET) Table '63175218 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button Seat 2: FishList_net (140812 in chips) Seat 4: slammedfire (68413 in chips) Seat 5: amatos (158043 in chips) Seat 6: aakkari (83224 in chips) Seat 7: sirraffay (171472 in chips) Seat 8: Dracospinner (592036 in chips) FishList_net: posts the ante 600 slammedfire: posts the ante 600 amatos: posts the ante 600 aakkari: posts the ante 600 sirraffay: posts the ante 600 Dracospinner: posts the ante 600 slammedfire: posts small blind 3000 amatos: posts big blind 6000 * HOLE CARDS * Dealt to amatos [Qd Ac] pakito13 [observer] said, "SOBRA !! has ido a barna?" aakkari: folds sirraffay: folds Dracospinner: folds FishList_net: raises 134212 to 140212 and is all-in slammedfire: folds amatos: calls 134212 pakito13 [observer] said, "a jugar el satelite?" * FLOP * [6h 5c 3d] "* TURN * [6h 5c 3d] [9s] SobraoBoY [observer] said, "no" CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "q" CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "q" * RIVER * [6h 5c 3d 9s] [Jd] Bodacious63 [observer] said, "j" CHOCOTITO [observer] said, "q" Bodacious63 [observer] said, "j" * SUMMARY * Total pot 287024 \| Rake 0 Board [6h 5c 3d 9s Jd] Seat 2: FishList_net (button) showed [Js Ah] and won (287024) with a pair of Jacks Seat 4: slammedfire (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 5: amatos (big blind) showed [Qd Ac] and lost with high card Ace Seat 6: aakkari folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: sirraffay folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Dracospinner folded before Flop (didn't bet)

11-10-2007, 11:29:37	#6
parncito Tiburón Fecha de Ingreso: Oct 2007 Mensajes: 1.397 Reputación: 71	Re: Planteamiento de torneos Yo me hubiera ahorrado esas 9793 ultimas fichas, y aunque hubiera posibilidad de call por pot odds y con posición para mi es un fold claro. El reraise del villano indica que no es un re-steal y que tiene mano legitima como es el caso. En esta mano habría preferido dar solo esas 4000 fichas y no dejar que uno de los rivales se me iguale como big stack de la mesa.

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